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Original poster

AIBU to pay the live in nanny/au pair this salary.

372 replies

SpagBolgs · 07/02/2014 17:56

£300 a week for 7:30AM-5PM 5 times a week sometimes it may be a bit more. Then give her some money so she can treat herself. She will stay in our house and she get the chance to go to college/university. We will provide her with food, water a shower and internet. She will be treated like a member of the family and will be able to access the family car.

OP posts:
PatriciaHolm · 07/02/2014 23:43

www.nannyjob.co.uk/information/employment/salary_guide

Average for a live in nanny three years ago was around £26 k depending on location. That's £500 a month, OP. Helpful?

lilyaldrin · 07/02/2014 23:43

£400+ a week for her normal 50 hours.
For the week of proxy parenting 24/7, say normal hourly 7am-11pm and then sleepover rate of £30 = £160 per 24 hours/£1120 for that week.
5.6 weeks paid holiday a year (not going on holiday with you - you need to pay her if she goes on holiday with you)

Bornin1984 · 07/02/2014 23:43

The free water bit still makes me GrinGrinGrin

Original poster
SpagBolgs · 07/02/2014 23:43

She will not be expected do housework that will be down to me and I will make the children pack lunch and dinner. 2 older DC go to the same school and younger DC goes to the prep school so it not a issue.

OP posts:
Bornin1984 · 07/02/2014 23:45

Op can u answer why 400 a week is against human right?

LifeIsForTheLiving · 07/02/2014 23:45

What is 'unqualified mothers help'?

Chippednailvarnish · 07/02/2014 23:46

FFS just pay her a decent wage and stop trying to make it sound like you are doing her a favour paying her badly.

Bogeyface · 07/02/2014 23:46

IT is an issue for the poor cow being paid a pittance to do the school run. And how long before making lunch and dinner becomes her job?

Btw, a Nanny NEVER does housework, she is a professional childcarer. So dont think that you can get a discount by not asking her to hoover.

Original poster
SpagBolgs · 07/02/2014 23:46

Other users are telling me that if I pay the nanny £400 a week it against her human rights and i am exploiting her.

OP posts:
Bornin1984 · 07/02/2014 23:48

You are exploiting her by paying less than the minimum wage!

LifeIsForTheLiving · 07/02/2014 23:48

Bogeyface, that's misleading.

A good friend of mine is a nanny and light housework is always included in her contracts.

Would you pay a nanny any wage and come home to a shit pit with a pile of that days dirty dishes waiting for you?

Bogeyface · 07/02/2014 23:49

If by "Human Rights" you mean a fair days pay for a fair days work, then yes it is against her human rights and yes, you are exploiting her.

You want Norland Nanny care for Au Pair rates.

PatriciaHolm · 07/02/2014 23:49

Life - someone who is around to give mum a hand for an hour or so, say with bath time, if she needs it. Might do a school run possibly, but unlikely to ever have much sole care - they are there to help the mum, not be a substitute for her.

Bogeyface · 07/02/2014 23:50

Life then your friend is a fool.

Nannies do washing cooking and tidying up related to the children if required, but never for the family unless she is paid a higher rate to compensate. A good Nanny is paid well, a good Nanny/housekeeper is paid even more.

Would you pay a nanny any wage and come home to a shit pit with a pile of that days dirty dishes waiting for you? Of course! She is paid to look after my children, she isnt my maid.

lilyaldrin · 07/02/2014 23:52

Nannies are expected to do "nursery duties" and to clean up after themselves and the children. Of course a nanny would wash up dishes used during the day.

Bornin1984 · 07/02/2014 23:53

Op what's the going rate
In your local area? Is is
Comparable ?

Bogeyface · 07/02/2014 23:53

I should clarify, I would expect a Nanny to wash the kids lunch dishes, but I would not expect her to wash my breakfast dishes, or last nights dinner dishes. I would be paying her to look after my children, I would want that to be her sole focus. I dont want her to do what I have to do which is stick Peppa Pig on while I wash up!

Bornin1984 · 07/02/2014 23:54

Mary poppins was a live in nanny - she didn't do household chores!!!WinkGrinGrin

LifeIsForTheLiving · 07/02/2014 23:54

Bogeyface I didn't say for the family.

You categorically stated that a nanny would do no housework at all.

That's not the case. A nanny often does dishes, tidying, cooking, even washing of clothes or hoovering if it's the children that have made the mess/made it dirty whilst in their care.

I wouldn't pay for any nanny if she wouldn't clean up after herself and the kids as she went.

antimatter · 07/02/2014 23:54

2 older DC go to the same school and younger DC goes to the prep school so it not a issue. - do you expect nanny to give lift to your kids to those schools?

Sharaluck · 07/02/2014 23:55

I think 350 a week before tax for 50 hours (+ room and board) is fine. It's slightly more than minimum wage (isn't it?)

But as I said before OP I wouldn't expect her to stay for long. The job does sound hard with 5 dc, a school run and 2 very young dc full time.

So if you want to keep her I would look into finding out how you can increase we salary/decrease her workload.

Bogeyface · 07/02/2014 23:57

I still think this whole thread is utter BS.

Hiding it.

Bornin1984 · 07/02/2014 23:57

Bogey u have invested too much time in this thread
To hide it haha

LifeIsForTheLiving · 07/02/2014 23:58

Sharaluck - I agree.

It's not a salary or job description that many would aim to keep for years. BUT nor is it the horrific slave-labour/exploitation that many seem to be saying it is.

Chippednailvarnish · 07/02/2014 23:59

It's not Bogey, she really is going to let her have unlimited free water!!!!