to think MNers can be better than this

[IceBeing]

OPs may be ignorant, they maybe obtuse, they may be in the wrong and they may be trolls...

but how can dozens upon dozens of swearing riddled instructions to carry out intimate acts be considered a reasonable response?

For some people MN is the first forum they frequent. It is perfectly possible to post something that is innocently ignorant yet massively outrageous to MNers. Then suddenly you are being called all the names under the sun and told to fuck yourself preferably until dead? really?

Believe me it can be a massive shock that people say things on the internet they would never say in real life. It is possible to feel very very frightened and threatened by such an onslaught.

AIBU to think if the last 5 posters have covered the 'fuck off to the far side of fuck' angle then maybe you don't need to stick the boot in too?

The best case scenario is that the person on the other end is indeed a troll....in which case why are you giving them what they want?

[NorthernLurker]

If 50 people are so convinced it's a troll that they post very frankly then yes I'm quite comfortable thinking either that's a troll OR it's somebody with breathtakingly ignorant views.

Op do you 'get' that in the last few months mumsnet has been trolled more and more by those who get a sexual kick from it and by those who are just plain and simple bastards? Do you 'get' that in the course of said trolling many people have been hurt? Do you 'get' that much as HQ try we need to take responsibility for protecting ourselves and one another too?

[IceBeing]

Okay why do people keep telling me the OP of the nappy thread was a troll? How does that mean it is okay that 50 odd people piled in and broke the guidelines?

[TrampledUnderfoot]

Won't somebody think of the trolls

[NotAnotherPackedLunchBox]

Trampled

[IceBeing]

Yes I know trolls are horrible....

but so are posters piling in and kicking the shit out of someone.

and those posters will still be here tomorrow while the troll is gone. So really I care a great deal more what posters do than what trolls do.

We, the posters of MN, cannot control what trolls do. We can control ourselves. So erm....why don't we?

[TrampledUnderfoot]

Remember folks. Trolls are people too.

[IceBeing]

trampled are you still not getting it? Are you a little hairy yourself?

not only trolls get caught up in this stuff.

[LadyBeagleEyes]

If a flaming on a thread makes you scared and shaky you really need to get of the internet.

[IceBeing]

wont somebody think of the rules

[IceBeing]

if you can't read a thread without posting personal abuse you need to get off MN...

soon please!

[HavantGuard]

Yes. Everyone should behave exactly the way you want them too.

Better?

[TheFutureSupremeRulersMum]

wont somebody think of the rules

[Misspixietrix]

Ice I'm giving it until Page 5 before someone tells you to fuck off to NetHuns . FWIW I do agree with you re the pack mentality but you usually get used to them and learn how to 'pick your arguments' as it were. They interviewed a troll once. Not MN. Some news channel. He said nothing being said bothered him. He got the kick from the reaction. A bit like how I suppose Nappy Troll just has?

[Ledaire]

It wasn't all abuse. I was concerned by the level of detail in the replies and posted to warn that someone might be getting off on it.

Do you have a child with disabilities OP? I can completely see why people were emotionally charged about this issue and posting very personal information because of that. HQ were not exactly quick off the mark. What was said, needed to be said.

[catsrus]

I agree with you ice - troll hunting creates a corrosive atmosphere and makes it less likely that people with genuine problems will post. If you think an OP is a troll then ignore and report. It's not difficult and is what we all signed up to.

[TheFutureSupremeRulersMum]

If a troll is bothered about being sworn at anyway but a genuine (but ignorant) poster could be, then isn't it better not to all pile on a have a go?

[NorthernLurker]

You know who really hates troll hunting?

Trolls.

[TheFutureSupremeRulersMum]

*isn't

[ChippingInWadesIn]

I am not reading another whole thread of your garbage, it's nothing you haven't spouted before (boringly often). If you despise the posters on MN so much, then go elsewhere. Please :)

[hazeyjane]

'oh what a lovely lot you are for kicking the shit out of the OP on my behalf....'

I think this rather misrepresents some of the posts, mine included, which said it was refreshing to see so many people 'getting it' wrt the fact that it is pretty ignorant to not understand that older children and adults may need nappies for all sorts of reasons. Having been on threads where people are rounded on for daring to bring up their children's disabilities, yes it is refreshing!

If you can't cope with a thread, don't open it. Don't reply to it. Don't come on MN.

I resent being told not to come on mn, or open threads when a thread title screaming ignorance pops up on my active conversations. I did not stick the boot in, or tell anyone to fuck off, but I reported the thread and gave my opinion, as everyone has a right to,because that is the whole bloody point of AIBU!

[TrampledUnderfoot]

They do, NL.

[catsrus]

and yes, misspixie you're right - Trolls get off on the reaction. "don't feed the Trolls" is valid advice - as it has been since the first days of newsgroups (pre Web)

[ChippingInWadesIn]

and the infamous socks as well...

[Misspixietrix]

See? Told you Ice! .

[JapaneseMargaret]

Ice - I agree with you. I didn't see the thread in question, but have witnessed a fair few, and often it can be uncomfortable viewing.

However you're never - never! - going to get people to stop after one post telling the OP that they're being inappropriate. It's just simply never going to happen. Anyone who's in any way vaguely familiar with the nature of forums understands this, I think.

It would be nice to think that's how it should work. It should. But it never will. People want to have their say. Get their two penneth in. And people feel very, very strongly about things. Trolls cause people to spill very personal, private information. And that do this for kicks, as well. Not good.

I also have to say - I have been on MN for 5 years, but on forums in general for 10 years. I have managed to never start a thread that has caused people to want to abuse me.

Am I just lucky....?