Is this legal? Re Advertising a job, but only for male applicants? No women allowed?

[Confuddledmuchly]

Trial job vacancy for male youth/student .. suit age 15 to 18 Ad - hoc Sundays .. Must live XXX (surround 2 miles) Male.. must be outgoing, friendly, fit and willing.. Exempt from sex descrimination act due to lifting role Please apply via mail to XXX ([email protected]) Stating age, hobbies, address and contact number ( no mums applying please for their sons ) Great learning opportunity for the right applicant. Thankyou We will send you details on email. . Please request job spec in subject line, thanks..

And yes they spelt 'discrimination' incorrectly in the Ad.

Actually creasing at 'the Big Hose'.

I too think it sounds decidedly dodgy, and not just from a discrimination point of view.

Sexism aside, why else would they care what age this 'youth' was, and what his hobbies were??

Dodgy. Has anyone applied yet?

sockreturningpixie I'm a 40yo female powerlifter. How can I help?

Honestly manic,

I think that's a piss poor reason for wanting discrimination in adverts to be legal, and really I mean scraping the bottom of the barrel piss poor...

Manic - you do realise that if a post can't be advertised as being exempt from the equalities act then you shouldn't appoint a man over a woman unless he was the higher scorer or equal top and you have an overall lack of male teachers

cosy
This made me laugh -
There were a few mums who commented saying their sons were interested, one even left their sons phone number for 'Andy' to get in contact with him.

Even though it says they must apply via email, and for them to do it themselves and not get their mum to do it.. not sit on your bum and wait for a call from me because your mum gave me your phone number

Jeeze...

confuddled - piss poor. Really? Have you ever been to an interview that you've arrived at and realised you have zero chance of getting the job? It's seriously depressing and the thought of all those wasted hours on the app is even more so. I wish adverts would give you essential info such as 'we have an internal candidate', 'we want a male/female', 'the boss' son is applying' etc to save all that timewasting. Don't see what's so bad about that.

Redcliff - we have no lack of overall male teachers at all, we are approx. 50/50 which is more than most schools can say. But we do all have a lot of different responsibilities (boarding school) and, when somebody leaves, we often need to match the skill set very closely indeed. Sometimes gender is a part of that.

Andy is scared of the Mums isn't he. He knows they'll see right through him when he asks his 'youth' to stay behind for some extra duties. Perhaps a little photography work on the side....

Yes piss poor manic

Weighing up the pros and cons of it, surely you can see that.

I do understand where your coming from - I sometime have people at work wanting to only recruit women for equally good reasons but it doesn't mean it's legal .

Erm, with your reasoning manic we'd be making murder legal because those murderers are just gonna kill people any way!

The law is there for a reason. Yes some people still behave in a shitty way but the vast majority do not. If there is a genuine reason why a particular sex would be essential the law allows for that. Where there isn't a genuine reason and just prejudice the law does not.

If anybody is working for a company that is putting out ads for jobs that they are planning to discriminate and not doing it legally then can I please ask you to get someone in to do your HR who actually knows what they're doing?

Are you sure this ad wasn't written in the 70s? A bit like the weird version of Scooby Doo dd watched earlier this evening where everything is 70s fashion but they have internet and mobiles etc.

Erm, 15kg is not that heavy. I'm not strong at all, and I can lift 15kg easily.

Yes, I know it isn't that much! According to 'Andy' -

No female can lift and load 80 tables weighing 15kg

I have no idea why but he has uploaded to the tabletots facebook page some passive aggressive photo stating that the business..

'Routinely moves audio/visual equipment weighing up to 50 lbs across campus for various classroom and event needs'

What a tool.

um, since when can a teenage boy lift more than a fully grown woman? I frequently have to carry my lazy toddler around. He weighs alot more than 15kg. What an absolute tool that Andy is. I hope someone gets in touch and reads him the riot act about acceptable comments in this day and age. Bad enough to have written the original advert, but to carry on defending it when it's been pointed out how stupid it is is awful.

I think Andy is looking for someone he can mould in his own image. Probably to make penis-lifting jokes with

My toddler weighs 15kg and I spend a fair amount of my day lugging her around. 80 static tables that each weigh 15kg, but don't cry, poo, wriggle and wipe their noses on my clothes sounds like a piece of piss.

Wow, it's like he won't even SPEAK to a female on the phone if they're applying for someone else!

I saw a job once in a bridalwear store, Bridal Fitter, which was exempt and could ask for females only. I don't think you can use the same reasoning for 'lifting' unless the lifting is lifting naked men, which at 15-18... it isn't.

Actually as there's very little a 15-18 year old can legally DO, what on earth must the job be?

Am I the only one who thinks it sounds a bit rude?! Outgoing, fit, friendly, young man who likes a bit of lifting? Great learning opp?! No? just me then.....[walks off to get coat]

friendly, fit and willing..

I certainly wouldn't be sending my 15 year old boy to that job!

I saw a job once in a bridalwear store, Bridal Fitter, which was exempt and could ask for females only.

It's exempt because there is "nork lifting"

who cares , if its heavy lifting let the young lads do it .

Yes, let's go back to the pre-Dagenham walk out where it was accepted that women couldn't do certain jobs just because they were considered "mens" jobs.