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Is this legal? Re Advertising a job, but only for male applicants? No women allowed?

129 replies

Confuddledmuchly · 03/02/2014 20:25

Trial job vacancy for male youth/student .. suit age 15 to 18 Ad - hoc Sundays .. Must live XXX (surround 2 miles) Male.. must be outgoing, friendly, fit and willing.. Exempt from sex descrimination act due to lifting role Please apply via mail to XXX ([email protected]) Stating age, hobbies, address and contact number ( no mums applying please for their sons ) Great learning opportunity for the right applicant. Thankyou We will send you details on email. . Please request job spec in subject line, thanks..

And yes they spelt 'discrimination' incorrectly in the Ad.

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flowery · 03/02/2014 20:26

It's sex discrimination and age discrimination.

GlitzAndGiggles · 03/02/2014 20:27

No mum's applying for their sons Grin

justmyview · 03/02/2014 20:28

I think some roles which involve intimate personal care are exempt from sex discrimination laws, due to the nature of the role. Not sure about this ad

MeMySonAndI · 03/02/2014 20:28

It is not legal... To say it that openly.

At the end if the day they are going to do whatever they want, but it is not legal to discriminate on advertising.

Lottiedoubtie · 03/02/2014 20:29

Horrendous ad! No not allowed. 'Lifting' is not a recognised exemption as far as I am aware.

CoffeeTea103 · 03/02/2014 20:29

Do you want the job?

poopooheadwillyfatface · 03/02/2014 20:29

Where is the ad?

I think I want to apply.

WilsonFrickett · 03/02/2014 20:29

Well it's badly worded - if 'lifting' they mean personal care (ie lifting a disabled person) then it could be exempt but they have to state that. If it's 'lifting boxes' then it's illegal.

poopooheadwillyfatface · 03/02/2014 20:30

I haven't got any testicles of course, but I'd love to see what they say Grin

HermioneWeasley · 03/02/2014 20:30

Heavy lifting may exclude some women, but they should specify physical fitness not gender. It's unlawful discrimination.

KatyMac · 03/02/2014 20:31

DD thinks it's unacceptable - apparently she can lift & it's breaking the equal rights act 20something or other (do you think she means the equalities act 2010?)

UriGeller · 03/02/2014 20:31

Maybe its with the circus. Lifting weights with their bollocks?

Confuddledmuchly · 03/02/2014 20:31

No, I don't want the job, ha! But I could have done a job like this standing on my head as a young girl, and done better than a heap of boys I knew at the time!

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elevendays · 03/02/2014 20:31

There are a few jobs which are exempt.

EllenJanesthickerknickers · 03/02/2014 20:31

I guess 'lifting' may be code for lifting on to the toilet?

Confuddledmuchly · 03/02/2014 20:32

No, It's lifting things like folding tables, like the ones you get at table top sales and car boots etc.

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Confuddledmuchly · 03/02/2014 20:33

Can anyone link to something about the laws for this for me please?

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SelectAUserName · 03/02/2014 20:33

Yup, discriminatory. No reason a 40-year-old female weightlifter couldn't do the job.

If it was heavy lifting as one part of a role of, say, Victim Support Officer at a male rape crisis shelter then they could claim exemption under the Genuine Occupational Reason clause, but that would be because of the sensitive nature of the environment not because there happened to be heavy lifting involved!

wimblehorse · 03/02/2014 20:33

What 15 year old would be suitable for lifting in a personal care capacity? Or boxes etc that a grown woman couldn't?! Def dodgy

pixiepotter · 03/02/2014 20:34

If there is heavy lifting they would not be allowed to employ school aged youngsters I wouldn't have thought

bearleftmonkeyright · 03/02/2014 20:34

I do this every day of the week as a dinner lady. Can I apply?

Ragwort · 03/02/2014 20:35

Agree with Just - if the role involves personal care then I believe you can state male/female (but would probably need to state 'exempt from Sex Discrimination under ................. Act). However it is probably someone needing help with a teenage boy with special needs so I would hope people would treat the advertisement sympathetically. Not everyone knows every detail about employment legislation.

I still have a college project from the 70s where jobs were clearly advertised 'male wages £x, female wages £y'.

Confuddledmuchly · 03/02/2014 20:35

Apparently not bearleft You need a penis for this type of work donchaknow...

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Ragwort · 03/02/2014 20:36

How do you know its lifting heavy tables Confused?

Confuddledmuchly · 03/02/2014 20:36

Already said it's for help at tabletop sales, setting up etc etc..

Nothing to do with care work.

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