to want to try coke just once?

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I'm nearing a significant and have a bit of a bucket list.
This is one thing that I'm considering.
Sourcing it shouldn't be a problem.
I've tried softer drugs in my midtwenties, but am now just got a yearning to give it a go in a very controlled environment. But and a little bit concerned about the aftermath.
AIBU to be thinking like this?

Actually, if you're talking about violent crime, alcohol is implicated in something like 50% of violent crimes. Which would suggest that it is rather more of a problem than someone having a couple of lines of coke once in their life.

Sorry if this has been pointed out before.

Sorry, reading about serial killers is not for me!

See, I might think that spending one's time reading about disturbed and violent criminals was not a particularly healthy thing to do, and that it was perhaps inclined to give you a warped view of the world and the human condition. (I take issue with the term "criminal mind", for example. It implies very old-fashioned, Victorian view of criminality). However I wouldn't seek to stop someone from reading it if they want to, or even recommending it to others.

Anyway, I thought we had agreed? You said you thought it made no sense for drugs to be illegal of alcohol isn't. I'm not sure if you mean that you would like to see alcohol banned or drugs legalised though?

(And you still haven't answered any of my questions, but never mind ... )

'tis extremely unlikely that OP would end up in jail from doing a line of coke though if anyone in her social circle had a mind to they might report her to children's services?

alcohol and drugs are both implicated - i am not for a second saying alcohol is better than illegal drugs.

it would be better if drugs were legalised. i still wouldn't advise anyone to take them though.

It is tragic that this boy has died from taking E at the weekend, but in my heyday (no idea of the figures now) around about a million people were taking E each weekend. In that time I remember the equally tragic death of Leah Betts (someone mentioned her up thread). I think it says a lot that in fact so few people actually die whilst taking these recreational drugs.

I'm using this as a separate example from the whole cocaine 'industry' which obviously has far more reaching effects with regards to death connected to it although not so much the use of cocaine as in the trafficking. Quite different from most other drug supply lines.

Again as I said before, being very mindful of the poster who has lost a child through drug abuse which is of course dreadful.

For the record, despite my generally good experiences in the past I would never in a million years encourage anybody else, whatever their age, to experiment with drugs - including the rather absent OP.

i'm pretty sure criminal minds is a term still used today what would you rather i said?

I don't know about legalisation actually. Not sure about all those scummy bastards suddenly becoming legitimate business people overnight.

1. Is your solution to alcoholism and the 40,000 deaths a year from it to ban drink for everyone? If not, why not?

obviously not. as with illegal drugs, people would still find a way to drink alcohol making it potentially more dangerous.

Mitchy, seriously?!!

2. Do you intend to share a glass of wine with your DCs when they are of age? If so, does that mean you're condoning alcoholism?

what they choose to do when they're old enough i suspect i'll have very little control over. i wouldn't encourage them to do drugs OR get hammered. i wouldn't try and stop anyone from doing these things but i would not recommend it. i'd tell them about my own experiences and hope it gave them food for thought.

Thepobble the fact is that regardless of whether drugs should be legalised or not currently that line of coke is covered in blood money and not all of it from people that have choices. If this is acceptable in the name of 'fun' for some people then by all means do it. I couldn't myself divorce in my mind the line in front of me from the misery that had got it there. If op feels so strongly about her right to a fun time perhaps she should look into how she can campaign for cocaines legalisation and ethical production to her bucket list instead of blindly sniffing whatever from god know where as long as her dealer is a 'naice' man. Alcohol may not be ideal but I've yet to hear of people dying to get the hops and grapes from vineyard to supermarket.

3. I'm asking if you can see that drugs (e.g. alcohol) can be enjoyed responsibly

I've plenty of common sense thank-you. of course i understand that millions of people take drugs and most of them don't die. that doesn't change the fact that they're not what you'd call 'safe' hobbies and it's not just about them being potentially fatal. i've also mentioned the link between drugs and mental health issues so much so that i'm now boring myself.

as for question 4, i have answered that. i don't think you can compare getting wasted to reading a book.

DroppedScones, I think that you should read the whole thread before commenting. No-one, including ThePobble, has ignored the very real problems with the cocaine trade. Quite the opposite.

You are not breaking the law when you drink alcohol whereas you are when you take drugs.

Thanks mc fox I have followed it very closely. I'm pleased to see there is such agreement on the subject of cocaine if not other substances.

Wow, great insight teenmum3.

It is impossible to have a sensible debate about drugs when the brainwashed mindset is 'drugs are bad m'kaaay and illigal but drink is fine cos it's legal and I like getting drunk yaaaay'

The problems with the cocaine trade stem from its illegality, not from the substance itself. Colombia seems now to be set to lead the way on a change of thinking in this regard and the President has asked for backing from other countries re decriminalisation and, eventually, legalisation. Support has been less than forthcoming, however, which I find incredible; Colombians know all about cocaine, they know the issues and they know what would work in terms of solving them. But instead other govts across the world blindly continue with the 'war on drugs' which is never, ever, going to be won.

Whois, I agree. It's such an emotive subject that people let reason and evidence be clouded by/entirely ignored in favour of their own unwavering and often illogical beliefs. It makes sensible, grown up debate almost impossible and places us in the situation we are in now, where legalisation is clearly a sensible option, but the hugely expensive and ineffectual 'war on drugs' continues.

seriously what mcfox? sorry, distracted

I'm questioning your comment that dealers would become legitimate businesses in the event of legalisation. Is that really how you think it would work? If so, no wonder you think the way you do.

no wonder what? how do I think then? I feel a bit lost

I don't know how to imagine a process of legalisation that wouldn't use the existing manufacturers and suppliers and distributors - is that a mad idea? how else might it work?

I think taking drugs occasionally in my 20s was just one of many stupid things I did. I don't regret it I just left it behind like bad relationships crap diet awful jobs etc.

Agree with you again Noddy!