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AIBU?

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To ask how many of you have a 'natural' lady garden?

395 replies

ineedsomeinspiration · 18/01/2014 20:04

I used to sport the landing strip up until I was about 6 months pregnant with ds who is now 2. I stopped shaving as I couldn't see what I was doing, also might sound daft but kind of wanted it to be the way nature intended to give birth.
Since then I haven't shaved, waxed, trimmed etc. I'm not massively hairy so it's not a full on 80s style bush.
DP moaned the other day as he liked it the way I used to have it. Hmm. I sort of told him tough luck it's my bits and quite frankly I cba and like not having itchy stubble. He watched our Baby come out of there fgs surely he realises it's not a fashion accessory?
AIBU to not make the effort for dp?

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DownstairsMixUp · 19/01/2014 10:18

I always get all my pubes off with a razor, the only time I struggled was when I was pregnant (bump in the way so didn't see fanjo for months) so i used a mirror. I do get pubes going up to my bum to, I'm not deformed. Hmm I agree to I started shaving mine at about 13, was nothing to do with porn as didn't see porn till I was about 15 and even then it was full on bush porn. Grin I have heavy periods though and quite heavy ewcm (sorry if tmi) so I do feel cleaner hairless knowing it can't stick etc. I tend to shave every other day so it's not really ever stubbly and doesn't itch.

I still don't have any issues with those who choose not to though, but the whole it makes you look like a young girl from the ones who choose not to is a bit odd. I'm a 26 year old whose given birth naturally, it really does not look like that. Confused

OxfordBags · 19/01/2014 11:52

Voyage, I have already explained upthread that it was a joke about pooing out of the vagina. I didn't for a minute say anything about pubic hair around the anus being a deformity. Because I don't think there's anything wrong with it. My whole point being I think that it and all body hair is natural and should stay where it is.

Mia4 · 19/01/2014 11:58

I'm agree with Voyage here Oxford, you may have intended a joke but it didn't come across that way to me at all either. And pubic hair does often distend all over the shop, I have pubes that have spread all up my arse including the crack and down my thighs due to a hormone imbalance and ovarian cysts.

For myself, I remove the thighs and butt hole hair (weirdly that doesn't hurt one iota) because otherwise it is messy and uncomfortable and itches like fuck if i wear tights -which I often do under jeans.

Mia4 · 19/01/2014 11:59

As I mentioned before, I do short back the bikini line for my swimsuit as well. Ah for a permanent hair removal product wishes

Lovethebubbles · 19/01/2014 12:21

I shave most of mine and sometimes all of it because it just feels cleaner to me... Not sure why really. I let it grow a bit recently and asked DH what he thought and he says he doesn't mind either way but said oral is better to give when it's less hairy! I can understand why!

OxfordBags · 19/01/2014 12:39

Mia, I can't mitigate for people not being able to extrapolate the true meaning of a joke from everything else that I have said - for, as everything else I say is pro-hairiness, it surely makes no sense to then make one single anti-hairiness remark, does it?

Mia4 · 19/01/2014 12:41

No Oxford, but you can accept that maybe the joke wasn't funny.

gruffalosmile · 19/01/2014 12:44

Me, I'm in my 40's and pay my lady garden no attention unless I'm going on holiday in which case I might attend to any stragglers. DH doesn't care, he likes it. I can't bear the thought of itchy stubble.

OxfordBags · 19/01/2014 12:45

I can accept that. And I can also accept that people taking offence at something when it has already been repeatedly and laboriously explained that no offence was intended, might be choosing to take offence.

Mia4 · 19/01/2014 12:47

You can accept both of those but considering several people commented on it not being funny you may want to prioritise.

MostWicked · 19/01/2014 13:27

I am in my late 40s and for a substantial part of my life nobody gave a sod about pubic hair
I’m in my mid 40s. When I first started shaving as a teen, I had never seen another shaved woman, the only pornographic pictures I had seen, had the full 70s bush. I was single at the time. I didn’t do it for fashion or for any fella, I did it because I preferred the way it felt. I had never even heard the term Hollywood or Brazilian. When I had a partner, I would let it grow back, because it wasn’t something that was often talked about. It was only as I got older and more confident, that a man saw me clean shaven – and that was my husband!

I cannot help but think that a man who insists on shaven actually likes a shaven pussy because they like young girls!
That argument is just so flawed. There is nothing I could do to my adult body, to make it look like a teenage girl. I am a grown woman who has given birth twice.
Why is it considered perfectly acceptable to shave your legs and arm pits, but not your pubes? I pluck the hairs around my nipples too. Is that wrong?
My DH wants to have sex with me. It is me who turns him on, whether or not I happen to be shaven or not at the time. We both prefer the sensation of when I am bald.

Waxing is no different to self harm in my book
How incredibly insulting to people who self harm

It is my free choice. I object to people telling me that me free choice must be because of fashion, media, porn or male influence.

OxfordBags · 19/01/2014 13:40

I shall try to make sure that I make things easier for people to get, yes, Mia.

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Mia4 · 19/01/2014 13:53

Mostwicked I get them around my nipples too and under my chin and underside of face. Just the odd fee but they are really spikey and coarse. I.pluck too though I know a friend who claims threading is better.

Weelady77 · 19/01/2014 14:12

Mia threading has wonderful results but it's the sorest thing ever I had tears running down my face getting my eyebrows and top lip done

Mia4 · 19/01/2014 14:40

Oh yikes, Weelady77 , I may have to give that a miss. Generally waxing and plucking doesn't hurt. I do know people who take nurofen before waxing because it's so painful though.

Do you find that threading lasts longer?

Weelady77 · 19/01/2014 14:44

I've only had it done once in turkey while DH was getting a Turkish shave the woman pinned me downGrin it did last much longer and was so smooth but the pain wouldn't convince me to get it done again! And I can get a full leg wax and Brazilian done without flinching Smile but other people don't find it sore at all

Foxsticks · 19/01/2014 14:54

I had my bikini line waxed on Tuesday and I've just noticed my skin is peeling Shock

I thought the wax was too hot. That and this thread is really making me feel I won't bother anymore.

EBearhug · 19/01/2014 14:58

This '70s' bush thing, did women not have pubic hair before the 70's then?

Not according to John Ruskin... (That's all a myth anyway, apparently.)

Yes, of course they did. Just look at some Victorian porn. Other art forms will mostly have a tastefully draped bit of cloth or just a sort undefined blur round that bit. Until you get to Courbet and L'Origine du monde, of course.

I remember reading a Wordsworth Classic Erotica book written and set in the 1920s, and they all have some sort of orgy where they set to with the shaving foam and a razor. I imagine it was a cut-throat razor type (first safety razors from the 19th century, but I don't know how widely they were used.) Can't remember the author (which may well have been Anon) nor the title, but it's not worth searching out anyway, it wasn't very well written.

Shaving was also used as part of lice removal by some, though don't know how widespread this was. Probably not very, given the lack of access to safe water supplies, decent lighting and good razors till comparatively recent years. I'm not sure it's something you'd want to attempt by yourself with a cutthroat razor, a ewer and bowl of cold water and flickering candlelight, but that's entirely speculation, and I could be quite wrong. I would suspect it was mostly only prostitutes, anyway - and that's apparently where merkins started out. (Apparently pubic lice are under threat in the UK, because of the fashion for shaving and subsequent loss of habitat.)

Also, the risks of a cutthroat razor blade are probably less if you use one often and are proficient. I am just making assumptions about how dangerous it would be for me to use one, and they may not be half as bad as all that, if you know what you're doing.

EBearhug · 19/01/2014 14:59

I do steel myself up to have my eyebrows threaded from time to time, but it is painful - waxing is far easier, IMO.

There is no way anyone will ever have the chance to thread any part of me except my eyebrows.

woodmouse2 · 19/01/2014 15:10

op tell your dp to have patience and wait for winter - au naturel the leaves fall off and the bushes do thin out Grin

Bootycall · 19/01/2014 15:23

well it's each to their own isn't it really. how is it anyone else's business what you do with your pubes.

still op maybe your dh associates your hairy bush with a baby coming out of it and a neater lady garden as more sexual?

this is in no way a criticism or telling you to wax it just wondering if that's what he feels but isn't saying.

my dh trims his pubes and I wax, I couldn't be doing with hairy bollocks and I don't think it would be much fun for him giving oral to a birds nest either.

but again it is and has to be your personal choice.

Lookingforadvice123 · 19/01/2014 15:39

I really dislike the way having hairy legs/underarms/fannies is viewed as feminist? It's not the 70's anymore 1st/2nd wave feminism anymore! A feminist is anyone who strives for equality and women's rights, surely?

Those who leave your foofs au naturel solely because of feminist reasons, do you also leave your underarms I shaved? Feminism is absolutely havin the right to CHOOSE, whatever suits you best.

And I shave down below, have done since I was about 15, (26 now) I also have a weird phobia of hair. Prefer to wax it but it's too costly too have it regularly. My OH also keeps his downstairs neat, since before I knew him.

Sallystyle · 19/01/2014 16:04

Sometimes I have had to cut the dangly bit of hair after my period before I used a moon cup.

But never more than that.