To feel like I live in a completely different world to most mumsnetters?

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No one I know can afford to be SAHM. Wages over 20k are seen as damned good, not disparaged. Anything over 30k makes you well off. I don't even know where Lancashire's private schools are, or anyone who hires a tutor. Nannies are another urban myth that don't exist around here, it's all after school clubs and nurseries. I feel completely alienated from this place at times. Am I just a common northerners out of place on mn who should migrate to netmums, because the shockingly snobby attitudes at times tell me I should.

Nosy is a great human attribute,and mn is full of things to get agog about

I am using "agog" in conversation tomorrow. I like that word.

I'm going with mrsj and will try to slip a couple of snooties in tomorrow monica.

It'll put people in mind that I'm more socially elevated than I actually am.

I'm eating gravel to impress sm.

I am quite a fan of snooty though - I may even get perturbed at some point!

Sling that gravel on awell fired roll,then I'll be impressed

I'm in the South in a predominantly white Conservative /UKIP rural area. I bludgeon foxes to death whilst wearing diamond shoes and yelling racial slurs, in between Mnetting. Because that's the kind of stereotype I am.

Lol. See you all tomorrow, night night.

On the plus side, I'm going to happily assume that I only earn a pittance because of my age and I just haven't had long enough to work my way up. That's how it works right? please promise me life doesn't stay like this

Its all a bit bollox isn't it?

we all live in different areas, have different pulls on our time/money/outlooks.

But that is what makes its great. a special place where we can fight, and grump, and unite against all sorts of stuff that fucks us off daily.

I have to agree Madame. Sometimes I wonder if the customer yelling at me down the phone is in fact someone I've just been having a friendly chit chat with on here!

The nice thing about mn is not matter what it is that's fucking you off, there's always one miserable pious asshat ready to go

"Seriously? You thought this worth posting? Do you not have real problems?"

Mnet would be a lesser place without the Sprites of Misery.

Indeed,the competitive youse think you got worries,well dd got leprisy and grade29 piano tomorrow

WOW - the North has the internet now !
Are we sure that's safe ?

scottish people post too but mn needs a jolly nice sort with grasp of syntax to explain in bbc manner

thanks chubby for getting it!

I love MN for hundreds of different reasons, but mostly because I think I won't be judged by any kind of socio-economic standard.

I'm really sorry the OP feels that, but I have to say that is not my experience at all. I get deleted and told off all the time. That's fine! I don't ever expect anyone to work around me and my personal preoccupations. That would be bonkers!

I would however say that the OP should not post just and not come back and engage.

It's ever so easy to moan about MN and the people here, but why moan unless you are prepared to chat about it with all the people willing to talk about it?

None of us finds MN to be our personal little hidey hole of acceptance. but after a bit of time I think we do find a way of communicating which does not assume a knowledge of our own personal circumstances.

I think this is very healthy. God forbid I am the only sad twat who thinks the same things I do!

But the best thing for me HoFingHo, is that if you make triply sure you're NBU post something that's genuinely bothering you, there will always be some kind soul who's prepared to hold off the hordes with a flaming torch bigger than theirs.

And they always seem to draw other compassionate lurkers out of their silence, who can turn the thread into a more productive one.

The level playing field is the biggest reason I don't like poor grammar/spelling being panned, having trouble expressing yourself in text shouldn't stop anyone getting support.

Haven't read all the replies but... I'm American. I have landed on a British Mother's forum because it is absolutely not snobby. I have been a part of a few American forums and they tend to be dominated by the more affluent, which isn't me. They are not really snobby, it's more subtle than that. It's a whole set of values that requires money and leisure time to uphold. And parenting seems to be a competitive sport here and the "Mommy wars" is the least of it. That, and the constant, subtle censorship of "be nice" and feigned horror at swearing (God forbid you actually spell an entire swear word out!) And the intense focus on motherhood as though that is the only thing that is worth talking about.

It was such a breath of fresh air when I came upon this site! Women from all walks, being supportive and kind. Those who have a different way of doing things, sharing their thoughts and ideas without implying that their way is the only valid way. I find that there is a lot more understanding for what people in different situations are dealing with. It is awesome!

And, yes I know that I am massively generalizing here, but I just wanted to share my experience.

I too hate it when an OP lobs in a hand grenade then buggers off. If you don't like MN then don't use it. Easy.

I love all the different backgrounds and opinions on here. I might not agree with some of them but it is always interesting and informative.

I enjoy reading the threads and contributing to some of them. I don't have children, so can't contribute to many childcare threads.

Yet again, even if I had children, my children wouldn't be your children.

I wondered, as I don't have children whether MNHQ would ask me, 'what are you doing here' but they haven't. Also, I'm not the only childfree (not childless) person to contribute to the discussions.

OK, mostly about favourite baked potato fillings or favourite musicals, or budgeting at this time of year.

However, I've been unemployed for a year albeit I do voluntary work and chat sites like this keep me amused. We get by on DH's salary, however, that's probably, 'join the club' with anyone else who has to do that with or without children or even without a partner of any description.

I live in a 'vibrant' part of London, securely middle class, recently hired a cleaner and am a sahm. I grew up in a house full of abuse, domestic violence and neglect. Mn has been amazing in helping me reconcile my upbringing, my crappy family and how to be a mum when the example of parenting for me was so poor.

I possibly wouldn't be as 'good' a mum as I am now without mumsnet.

Good housekeeping has told me how to clean a house. Larger families and good housekeeping has told me how to keep organised with 4dcs. Lessons I did not learn growing up. I a savvy financially because I grew up with little, witnessing my parents bankruptcy and being on the receiving end with nasty debt collectors as a teenager.

Sadly now, special needs has helped me realise that my one of my dcs probably has ASD, something I only realised In the last couple of months after more almost three years of worry.

Looks can be deceiving. I may appear to be living in the 'completely different world', but lots of these issues transcend class, location etc.

Op I know how you feel, there is a lot of stealth boasting that goes on on this forum, but all forums are like that.
Also, you can't believe everything that everyone says surely!
That age old lie of "my baby sleeps through at 4 weeks old", just to make you feel more shit. People do it all the time!

I find it all fascinating-hearing about situations that I have no experience of. it's an Education.

A lot of people who appear to have it all are not happy in other aspects of their lives.
Many posters who appear to not have it all are very happy.

You don't know what goes on behind closed doors.....

I to am a northerner

I have no cleaner and no nanny
We both work and could not afford for me not to

I shop at Asda

We could never in a million years afford a private school for our three dc and I have never as of yet considered a tutor