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To think that this model looks awful and quite unwell?

369 replies

CiderBomb · 14/11/2013 13:25

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2507013/Victorias-Secret-Fashion-Show-afterparty-Sean-Avery-toasts-fiancee-Hilary-Rhodas-success.html

Got to say that it surprised me, Victoria Secrets models usually carry a bit more weight compared to the the emaciated girls we see doing the high fashion stuff.

She's so, so painfully thin. Her face is drawn and she looks older than her years.

When is the modelling world going to start using healthy looking girls who don't look like famine victims? This is not what people want to look at!

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pilates · 14/11/2013 18:56

Agree with FreeWee.

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS · 14/11/2013 18:56

She looks incredibly lean with muscles and zero body fat. I would guess she must work out a hell of a lot. She is utterly beautiful but I would personally put on 10lbs to a stone in her shoes in order to look a little softer.

amothersplaceisinthewrong · 14/11/2013 18:58

She looks great.

DontmindifIdo · 14/11/2013 19:00

Thing is, what a thin person means by "I don't starve myself, I eat normally" and what an overweight person might class as eating normally can well be very, very different things.

Someone who says "I don't do lots of exercise" might just mean they don't do formal exercise more than once or twice a week, but lead s very active life and not consider things like walking long distances to be noteworthy, where others will think that anything above a 20minute walk is classed as doing exercise (obviously it is, but whe I walked a lot daily, it didn't occur to me to class that as the exercise I did, it was the way I got around, exercise was going to the gym or a class).

Remotecontrolduck · 14/11/2013 19:00

There are lots of naturally thin women like her, as long as they're eating properly then clearly it's healthy and normal for them. Similarly you can be a size 14 and be very healthy.

A quick google of this model though does suggest she's actually lost quite a lot of weight. Yes she's always been slim but not on the scale she is now.

It's a shame Victoria's Secret feel that they need to push already slim girls into becoming even slimmer. It really doesn't do anyone any good, and actually detracts from the underwear they're trying to sell in my opinion.

lottieandmia · 14/11/2013 19:04

Underwear models traditionally had figures like Kelly Brook but now that isn't 'high fashion' enough apparently.

1919 · 14/11/2013 19:07

So the woman walking behind me yesterday with a young daughter who loudly said something like
'Eurgh! Anorexic! that is not what a real woman looks like' was doing it out of concern? How about the people who mutter 'eat some cake!' as they walk past, or the men who shout from cars that I'd snap in two if they fucked me?
This is not genuine concern, it is people thinking that I deserve to be humiliated because I refuse to conform to their ideals.

Lizzylou · 14/11/2013 19:08

A fb friend shared a story about how a man lost 2 stones of water weight in 2 hours, photos and all.
Seems thus could be what the VS models do http://www.blogilates.com/diet-2/the-victorias-secret-model-diet Diet

Lizzylou · 14/11/2013 19:10

Yes Lottie! Or Cindy Crawford/Helena Christianson, those are my ideals of beauty, prob because they were around when I was a teen, fashions change I suppose.

SaucyJack · 14/11/2013 19:11

I think these clothes rails look great in photographs, or on the catwalk, but I'm willing to bet very, very, very few people would think they look so healthy or natural or well-proportioned if you saw one in the non existent flesh.

sherazade · 14/11/2013 19:11

I recently went to a jewellers to get a ring fitted (nothing fit)
I kept on trying rings on the sizer to get a fit and they were getting smaller and smaller and were still too big. the sales assistant retorted: Well you have two solutions, we can order it in the smallest size and get it resized manually, but the easier option would be for you to pop into KFC and get some meat on!

I've had a parent at the school I work announce 'Don't you eat? Whats wrong with you? Are you ill?' in front of her smug PTA crew who all sniggered.

lottieandmia · 14/11/2013 19:14

1919 - but equally you shouldn't judge everyone to be like the nasty people you have had the misfortune to have come across. I expect peole like that are nasty about everyone.

I really don't think anyone can deny that there is general pressure on people, especially women to be as small as possible. Or that women in the public eye are under a lot of pressure to look very thin. And as I said, more so now than 15 or so years ago even.

Heartbrokenmum73 · 14/11/2013 19:14

1919 - that's fucking grim that you've had that abuse.

I'm the other end (on the larger side) and it sickens me that it happens to anybody, slim or big.

My sister's naturally slim (has my Dad's genes, where I have my Mum's) and she bounced back into her size 12 jeans after having my nephew.

lottieandmia · 14/11/2013 19:17

Exactly, SaucyJack. Don't forget that people tend to look a stone heavier in photos anyway.

lottieandmia · 14/11/2013 19:18

sherazade - if anyone spoke to me like that in a shop I would have made a formal complaint.

IAlwaysThought · 14/11/2013 19:19

She looks skinny in a healthy way. Some people are naturally skinny.

1919 · 14/11/2013 19:23

Lottieandmia- Of course. I agree that there's a lot of pressure but we should criticize the source of this pressure -in this case VS for only casting a very specific, tall and lean body type- and not the people who happen to fit the supposed ideal.

LessMissAbs · 14/11/2013 19:27

OP - I really would not want to look like Kelly Brook. Not to denigrate Kelly Brook, but I had a breast reduction so as to be able to do fun things like run comfortably and I would never in a million years go back to having bigger boobs. Life is so much better now.

It really irks me when middle aged women criticise fitter women who are simply athletic and toned (as the model in the picture is, she is definitely not by any stretch of the imagination, scrawny) try to tell you that we should aspire to looking like the somewhat more matronly type (eg Christina Hendricks et al). Simply because they are their friends look a certain way and they cannot conceive that not the whole world looks that way (or indeed wants to).

FWIW I don't have a weight problem, I don't want to look like anyone else and I value how my body feels over how I appeal to some random selection of men.

And if you think Kelly Brook doesn't diet severely to look like she does with that body shape, you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Heartbrokenmum73 · 14/11/2013 19:32

Christina Hendricks is 'matronly'? Since when? I thought she'd been voted one of the sexiest women in the world - frequently.

If she's matronly, I'm afraid that makes me Nora flaming Batty!

elskovs · 14/11/2013 19:33

" if you think Kelly Brook doesn't diet severely to look like she does with that body shape, you are living in cloud cuckoo land"

So true.

BlingBang · 14/11/2013 19:37

Looking at different pictures it does look like she had lost a lot of weight if you compare her sunken cheeks here to other pics where her face was much more rounded. I think her face makes her look underweight and that that low weight isn't so natural n her.

I thought it was well known that models were under huge pressure to be very thin and often use severe methods to achieve it. That's probably rubbish going by all these comments and they probably eat like horses.

Raddy · 14/11/2013 19:39

I think the model looks absolutely gorgeous. She is really toned and fit looking.

Famine victim? Nonsense imo. She looks very healthy and has a perfect figure.

Lizzylou · 14/11/2013 19:41

I think I am matronly in all honesty.
But I can and do run very well with this chest. Sports bras are wondrous things these days.

Kelly Brook also makes her living from what she looks like in underwear (pretty amazing) so obviously diets and exercises.

She also gets jibes about being fat Confused

BlingBang · 14/11/2013 19:46

But is she starving herself to get that perfect figure which is then used to show everyone what 'beautiful' is - that should be the issue. I thought she looked better when she weighed more. Some people can be this thin naturally, but most people would have to eat very little.

lottieandmia · 14/11/2013 19:47

1919 - I completely agree with you. Of course it is not the individuals at fault.

All of you saying the model is probably naturally like that - how do you explain the quite considerable weight loss she has undertaken? Would you say the same of Victoria Beckham for example?

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