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To think that this model looks awful and quite unwell?

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CiderBomb · 14/11/2013 13:25

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2507013/Victorias-Secret-Fashion-Show-afterparty-Sean-Avery-toasts-fiancee-Hilary-Rhodas-success.html

Got to say that it surprised me, Victoria Secrets models usually carry a bit more weight compared to the the emaciated girls we see doing the high fashion stuff.

She's so, so painfully thin. Her face is drawn and she looks older than her years.

When is the modelling world going to start using healthy looking girls who don't look like famine victims? This is not what people want to look at!

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MarshaBrady · 15/11/2013 10:50

She looks very beautiful in the video. As an aside what amazing eyes.

iFad · 15/11/2013 11:30

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Fishandjam · 15/11/2013 11:35

I look at her old pics and just feel admiration. In the same way I admire Michaelangelo's David. She looks so beautiful and strong. An unattainable look for many women but at least it's obvious that it's at least partly down to genes and great camerawork.

Objection · 15/11/2013 12:46

I give up on this thread, people are just twisting other peoples words to make a fight.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I find it very very sad that people seem to think that a) this womans body is natural and in no way forced to be as it is and b) that it is beautiful to be that way.

I pity anyone who feels that they should word hard on their bodies beyond being healthy to look a certain way or admire those who do. Pathetic.

lougle · 15/11/2013 13:11

Hilary Rhoda looks beautiful, and healthy, in that video Sad Look at her knees - compare them.

FirstVix · 15/11/2013 17:05

[Lola no idea of my body fat. I get very cold and there's not much. You can see my abs. As I said, I'm not healthy but lack of eating certainly isn't the reason for that]

That Anorexic thing is annoying, insulting and very bad for naturally thin teenagers. I had it too from our school nurse. Who had known me (and my tiny bones) all my life!!

Ecuador · 15/11/2013 17:09

Mmmmmm.....

I think I'm changing my mind on this particular girl. I've looked at her older photos and that video and boy she was absolutely stunning and that was only a year or so ago?

I said up thread that I am naturally very slim and only weigh 7.5 stone at 5ft 4" but I've always looked this way and just have a small appetite. No mystery behind my weight, but she has certainly lost a fair bit in a short time. She definitely looks bordering on gaunt now Sad. That video is gorgeous but the recent photos are just too much.

Not often I say that as a fellow skinny! (Wish to god I looked like her though or some of those other girls wow, just for a day to see what it was like!).

Fifibluebell · 15/11/2013 17:11

Hmm If you haven't got anything nice to say ....

currentbuns · 15/11/2013 17:21

Well I think she looks lovely. Her boyfriend on the other hand...

lottieandmia · 15/11/2013 22:02

It is unusual to see someone as stunning as her with a boyfriend who doesn't match as it's such a shallow world they all have to live in.

squoosh · 15/11/2013 22:56

What a beautiful face she has, but I agree OP that her body is shockingly thin. Anyone who thinks that is her natural state is deluded, I think the photos iFad linked to demonstrate this.The lengths Victoria Secret's models go to to get 'catwalk ready' is pretty extreme. Yes they're all naturally slim, but naturally slim doesn't cut it in the modelling world, you've got to get much lower than that, using whatever means necessary.

GrandstandingBlueTit · 15/11/2013 23:44

VS models days seem to have a very specific body shape, and it's certainly not one you see you every day in the street.

It's very, very lean and sinewy. Not like underwear models of old, a la Kelly Brook.

It's not a 'natural' shape - you have to work very hard, while exercising a fair old amount of denial and self-restraint - to mold a body shape like that.

And I say that as someone who is tall and slim. No way in a million years would I have the wherewithal to attain that shape.

TrucksAndDinosaurs · 16/11/2013 00:45

She looks unusual because she is: unusually long, slender, sinewy and beautiful, with the determination and temperament to work hard as an elite model. Like world-class dancers and athletes she has a genetic advantage and a personality to make her a success in a type of work most of us will never be suited for, because 99% of people don't look like that and wouldn't train like that to stay like that.

I would no more slate her or hate her than I would a top dancer or gymnast for a ripped, lean, extraordinary body that doesn't look like mine. She does a different job, leads a quite different life to mine. I hope she is healthy and happy. I would be sad if I had a daughter who thought not looking like her equalled failure: that would be as daft as me stopping dancing because I can't equal the arabesque of the Royal Ballet stars.

lottieandmia · 16/11/2013 01:08

Trucks - I don't think anyone has meant to slate her. I took the OP as a lament about what is expected of VS models these days.

GrandstandingBlueTit · 16/11/2013 05:21

I'm a bit bemused that you would equate her with an athlete.

Most athletes' ripped, taut bodies are a by-product of the training they undertake, and the fitness level they need to be at to compete effectively, and be at the top of their game.

To showcase clothes and underwear, you do not need to go to such extremes, and to pretend that you do is just bizarre. I mean, obviously you do 'need' to acquire this body shape because the industry has become so competitive and ruthless, but you don't need to be this shape to effectively model clothing.

The trend that seems to be occurring is somewhat worrying to most rational-thinking people, I'd have thought.

peasandlove · 16/11/2013 05:34

she's got an amazing body, she's worked hard to get that. You dont get muscle definition like that from eating cottonwool and she has very low body fat. Good for her. She is definitely slim, but not too thin, in my opinion

nooka · 16/11/2013 06:24

She looks like a bodybuilder to me. dh used to be seriously into bodybuilding, and anyone who thinks it is a healthy lifestyle or does not involve yoyo dieting is really very naive. Not only do you have to have high levels of targeted exercise, weights etc but in order to get that shredded look you have to both starve yourself and be very dehydrated, and it's generally only possible for a few hours. Which is quite dangerous (including documented deaths). There are also tricks with make up etc to get the appearance of more definition.

Of course you can naturally have very low bodyfat. My ds is very very thin (off the scale on BMI) but there are drawbacks - ds gets cold very quickly for example, we hope as he goes throguh is teens he will start to fill out a bit. It's also not something that you can just naturally become, being very thin is either genetic (like ds), caused by illness or stress or the result of concentrated effort and control (including chemical control).

So yes an eating disorder could be involved (many body builders have some degree of body dysmorphia) or pressures of the industry you are in.

Either way it's sad because she looked really very beautiful and much more healthy not very long ago, so you wonder what drove her to her current look.

FreyaFridays · 17/11/2013 11:28

I know I'm dragging back up a thread which ended yesterday, but I've just finished reading the entire thing (I find this a very interesting topic), and without commenting properly, all I really have to contribute is this excellent blog post by Hanne Blank which I always think of when things like this crop up.

Real Women

"There is no wrong way to have a body" is a quote I display permanently in my classroom on my tutor group's board.

Belize · 17/11/2013 11:39

Very true, I loathe that expression 'real women' who then go on to slate slimmer women.

SomethingOnce · 17/11/2013 11:41

She looks very well, but any more slender and I th

SomethingOnce · 17/11/2013 11:42

think she would be in danger of not being very healthy.

AlwaysInBed · 17/11/2013 12:11

I think it depends how you get to be that thin. If you don't know, then being rude about it is wrong. If you know they are starving themselves of anorexic then obviously being rude about it is wrong, but being rude about the modelling industry is fine.

I'm 6ft2 and naturally slim. I have had abuse for my size, being told I was anorexic etc; but I am just lucky that I can pig out on Jaffa cakes or whatever I want and really put on unnoticeable weight.

Branleuse · 17/11/2013 12:35

She looks fine. Shes paid well to keep herself looking like that.
I have no knowledge of her as a person.

Am I missing something here. What is she supposed to look like???

catgirl1976 · 17/11/2013 12:40

I have to say it is not a figure I would aspire to have or personally find attractive

AmberLeaf · 17/11/2013 13:11

Have you seen any earlier pictures of her Branleuse?

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