To think that this model looks awful and quite unwell?

[CiderBomb]

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2507013/Victorias-Secret-Fashion-Show-afterparty-Sean-Avery-toasts-fiancee-Hilary-Rhodas-success.html

Got to say that it surprised me, Victoria Secrets models usually carry a bit more weight compared to the the emaciated girls we see doing the high fashion stuff.

She's so, so painfully thin. Her face is drawn and she looks older than her years.

When is the modelling world going to start using healthy looking girls who don't look like famine victims? This is not what people want to look at!

[AmberLeaf]

I don't think it is 'just a model'

Girls and women world wide are sucking up this sort of thing, people are influenced by it. It isn't healthy and I don't think it is wrong to point that out. It is possible to do that without being nasty about the individual in question, some have been nasty on this thread, but many more have not.

[Branleuse]

i havent seen any other pictures of her, but its just a model isnt it.
A woman who gets paid well to keep herself super skinny and walk around in her underwear.

I dont really care what she looks like. Its her body, not mine.

Cant believe we've got 8 pages of scrutinising a womans body.

[Belize]

Oh my word that video is so American isn't it! I'm off for a nap !

[limitedperiodonly]

Agree, losers was not the right word to use. What I should have said was for all their fame and talent they were at heart ordinary people who made personal decisions.

Those decisions were the wrong ones and that's how easy it is to make a mistake. That's about as far as I'd go in using them or any other celebrity as a role model for a child.

The same goes for Hilary Rhoda or anyone else in the public eye unless they set themselves up as moral arbiters.

If they make the wrong decisions they hurt no one but themselves and those close to them. They owe nothing to anyone else.

Not only do we have no right to expect strangers to behave in a certain way to protect our children for us it is foolish to trust them to do it.

After all, you wouldn't allow someone you'd only ever seen in a magazine to babysit, would you?

And I do think her body is ugly, and in the interests of gender equality, though I've never saw Frankie Dettori in his pants, I'd probably say the same thing about him when he was racing.

I dislike what extreme diet and exercise does to a body. That's my opinion. I'm entitled to hold it and they are entitled to ignore it.

[ProfPlumSpeaking]

limited you can have some idea of the health of strangers by looking at them actually. Evolution has given all of us that acute ability - skin, eyes, hair, muscle tone, carriage, weight are all reliable clues. It is not pure speculation to assume that someone who is very obese, or someone who is skin and bone, is unhealthy. There is a lot of science behind that. But there is a large range of perfectly fine in between those two and this model looks not only healthy but also fit and toned.

[stopgap]

Double workouts and green juices for Hilary Rhoda:

nymag.com/thecut/2012/10/cut-works-out-with-hilary-rhoda.html

[SomethingOnce]

Yes? We're all ears!

[LessMissAbs]

More and more I'm coming to realise that there is a condition involving a strange kind of reverse body dysmorphia about...

[Belize]

Yes I would hardly describe Amy Winehouse or River Phoenix as 'losers' horrible description. They were both very talented but sadly both clearly very troubled. You are speculating on their characters and yet you criticise people speculating on the health of strangers?

No harm in being a model if you can keep your head. There's a fair few of them have done so although of course many who have fallen by the wayside.

Maybe this woman is like a jockey? She will keep herself lean and mean whilst she is at the top of her game and then when she 'retires' which will presumably not be that long into the future, she can let herself relax a bit.

[SomethingOnce]

woman's body person's body

In the interests of gender equality.

[SomethingOnce]

Sorry, limited, but I think it's distasteful to describe another woman's body as 'ugly', although I appreciate that you personally don't find it appealing.

And as far as teaching my children about the world goes, I would prefer to discuss people like Amy Winehouse in terms of addiction as an illness, rather than as 'sad losers' - this seems necessary if we are to understand and help people heal rather than damn them.

[Mushypeasandchipstogo]

Well said OP!

[limitedperiodonly]

I don't care for Hilary Rhoda's body. I think it's ugly. I strongly suspect that she is over-exercising and under-eating.

But I'm puzzled by the people condemning it by comparing her current shape with links to her former shape.

Do they think her former look is usual or obtainable without effort? Because IME it's not. But I'd be glad to hear from anyone who has a body like that with no effort because I'd love to be able to achieve it too.

Those people are also suggesting that the bodies of the other Victoria's Secret models are better by using that vile word 'healthy' and the viler words 'role model'.

We have no idea about the health of strangers, and it's foolish and distasteful to speculate on it.

You are the principal role models for your children. But if you want to use anyone else you could always say: 'Be careful you don't end up a sad loser like Amy Winehouse or River Phoenix.'

Or possibly you could say: 'Try to be the person running a company such as Victoria's Secret rather than a model pawed over in publicity pictures by men at the party or women who look at the Daily Mail.

'Then you can be as pretty as you want in private.'

[HotDogSlaughter]

Doutzen is just stunning. My god that is natural beauty.

[MadAsFish]

You absolutely do get muscle definition like that if you drop your body fat low enough. Definition is more about low body fat than working out (though that obviously conributes).

[Helltotheno]

Most would like a body like hers

I wouldn't personally, not at all... but I'd love a body like hers as it was in the pic IFad linked to! That was a different kettle of fish....
I think her outfit is particularly unflattering in the OP's pic.. it's just hanging off her with no particular definition and is not particularly a good look for her. Also maybe it's the hairdo that makes her face look long and thinner?

As for the bikini/underwear, she doesn't flatter it, I don't care what anyone says, and that's not a negative comment about her size. If VS want to showcase that particular gear, Hilary's current body shape and size is not the optimal way to do it.

I'm a bit jealous of Doutzen though, she's spectacularl ..

[currentbuns]

Actually, having now seen the earlier pictures, I tend to agree that she may have an eating disorder of some sort. She's clearly lost a large amount of weight and definitely looked much healthier before.

[stopgap]

She isn't naturally that thin. You can tell by the beginnings of marionette lines on her lower face, which are unusual in a 26-year-old.

[AmberLeaf]

Have you seen any earlier pictures of her Branleuse?

[catgirl1976]

I have to say it is not a figure I would aspire to have or personally find attractive

[Branleuse]

She looks fine. Shes paid well to keep herself looking like that.
I have no knowledge of her as a person.

Am I missing something here. What is she supposed to look like???

[AlwaysInBed]

I think it depends how you get to be that thin. If you don't know, then being rude about it is wrong. If you know they are starving themselves of anorexic then obviously being rude about it is wrong, but being rude about the modelling industry is fine.

I'm 6ft2 and naturally slim. I have had abuse for my size, being told I was anorexic etc; but I am just lucky that I can pig out on Jaffa cakes or whatever I want and really put on unnoticeable weight.

[SomethingOnce]

think she would be in danger of not being very healthy.

[SomethingOnce]

She looks very well, but any more slender and I th