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Who WBU? Mortifying train incident.

420 replies

MikeReepySpooksard · 03/11/2013 17:18

Ds, 15 months, has an unfortunate hair pulling habit. Today on the train he got hold of the hair of the teenage girl sitting in the seat behind his and yanked it. She screamed 'get the fuck off me' and glared at him. She kept turning round and glaring at him the rest of the journey.

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TheGinLushMinion · 03/11/2013 23:17

Grin Grin GrinGrin

Fucking bonkers.

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS · 03/11/2013 23:18

SHE HAS ISSUES. It was a cunting toddler. She should have chilled the fuck out once she realised a baby was involved.

TheGinLushMinion · 03/11/2013 23:19

Not me, a Wine is far better Wink

gobbynorthernbird · 03/11/2013 23:21

I'll take that grip, I won't take the grip on my thigh, the dragging and smelling of my hair, the 'oops sorry' grab of my arse. If you think it's funny, well good on you. I will say again that the girl had no idea who had hold of her hair. Good on her for reacting. I hope to god my DCs will shout and scream and swear if somebody touches them inappropriately in public.

Chippednailvarnish · 03/11/2013 23:25

She should have chilled the fuck out once she realised a baby was involved.

Perhaps she would have if the parents of the cunting toddler had said sorry...

TheGinLushMinion · 03/11/2013 23:28

If you can't recognise a situation for what it is then I'm sorry but you have issues too-please don't pass them on to your children Sad. Perception is clearly something in which you are lacking...

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS · 03/11/2013 23:30

You see, I don't need an apology from or on behalf of a baby because I am sane. Lucky me, eh? Smile

gobbynorthernbird · 03/11/2013 23:36

Ok, I have issues because I don't want people I don't know to touch me. I don't want people I don't know to touch me without knowing they are going to do so (we're hardly talking about being introduced for the first time and being given a kiss on the cheek). I don't even want people I do know to yank my hair. Maybe I should tell my DCs that if they're sat there minding their own business they should just put up with people sat behind them assaulting them? Maybe I should start a thread because they reacted in a split second to a threat. Because that is what happened to this girl.

HaroldLloyd · 03/11/2013 23:39

I was in a play place once and thought a door was open so walked through with the pram, didn't realise a lady was waiting holding the door so must have looked like I shoved in. (Well I did but not purposefully)

On noticing I turned around to apologise and she started giving me dirty looks and calling me a fucking something under her breath.

Did I apologise? No I legged it. I was a bit put off by the level of aggression a didn't want a full blown ruckus.

I can see this as a similar scenario.

When someone comes at you with a level of aggression it really can wrong foot you.

TheGinLushMinion · 03/11/2013 23:40

No love, you have issues because you think it's assault.

Sigh Hmm

fivefourthreetwoone · 03/11/2013 23:42

SHE HAS ISSUES. It was a cunting toddler. She should have chilled the fuck out once she realised a baby was involved.

For the last fucking time, she might not have realised that it was the toddler! She was sitting behind them, facing the other way when her hair was pulled from behind and she cried out as her hair was being pulled. She wouldn't have been able to see who was doing the pulling until she turned around and even then, it wouldn't have necessarily been obvious who had done it. She may well have thought it was the bloke who did it.

PerpendicularVincentPrice · 03/11/2013 23:46

How about we all respect each other's opinion and agree to disagree? I notice the OP has made herself scarce and I don't blame her Grin

fivefourthreetwoone · 03/11/2013 23:46

8She gave a 15 month old repeated 'evils' throughout the journey. As I said, she has issues.*

How do we know for sure she was giving the toddler evils? As has been pointed out several times, she might have been giving the dh dirty looks for either not apologising for his kids behaviour or for mistakenly thinking it was the dh who had grabbed her hair. There is also the possibility that she was just checking around to make sure her hair wasn't going to be pulled again.

Seeing as it wasn't obvious it was actually the baby who had pulled her hair, why would she give him dirty looks?

Bigfingers · 03/11/2013 23:47

She may well have thought it was the bloke . what, the bloke sitting there with his two dcs? She may have drawn that conclusion. She may well be as deluded as you!

HaroldLloyd · 03/11/2013 23:50

When she turned around and saw a man sitting there with a toddler & baby, I strongly suggest it was pretty obvious who did it. Especially as the toddler was clambering on the seat with arms stretched towards her barnet at the time.

fivefourthreetwoone · 03/11/2013 23:50

What does the fact he was sitting with his two dcs have to do with anything? Does sitting with two dcs suddenly make you incapable of pulling peoples hair now?

gobbynorthernbird · 03/11/2013 23:50

People causing you physical pain by doing something nasty is assault. However, my whole point was that the girl (when she cried out) didn't know what was happening. Do you really think that someone yanked her hair and she said nothing until she turned round and took a few seconds to take in that a child was sat there? I don't. I think she reacted instinctively.

fivefourthreetwoone · 03/11/2013 23:53

Even if she realised that it was the kid after turning around, she was probably embarrassed over lashing out so harshly towards a kid. Then when the kids dad didn't apologise for his behaviour she became pissed off. And rightly so.

fivefourthreetwoone · 03/11/2013 23:56

Exactly, her hair was pulled from behind, she wasn't expecting it, got a fright and as she couldn't see who it was, she reacted instinctively. Given that she probably yelled out before she turned around to see who it was, she didn't realise that it was a baby.

If she realised it was after she turned round, she was probably embarrassed by her outburst.

Therefore, she wasn't deliberately lashing out and swearing at a toddler FFS.

TheGinLushMinion · 03/11/2013 23:56

Yep, after that instinctive reaction though she had time to correct-she didn't do that.

Perception is good, practice it-promise you'll be loads happier & waaaaaaaaaay less tense.

Anyway I'm checking out-OP NUAA.

HaroldLloyd · 03/11/2013 23:57

You turn around. You see a man, a baby, and a toddler standing on the seat by your head with outstretched arms. Who didit.

Come on!

gobbynorthernbird · 03/11/2013 23:57

Before I had kids I didn't realise that they were capable of biting, hair pulling, scratching, headbutting, slapping, kicking, and all the other things kids do that hurt. Why would she assume it was the DC? I wouldn't have thought it was a DC until I had my own and saw (felt) it happen.

fivefourthreetwoone · 04/11/2013 00:01

she had time to correct-she didn't do that.

If she realised it was a toddler, she might have been feeling embarrassed for lasing out.

The OP's dh didn't do anything to help the situation neither. He didn't apologise to her for his kid's behaviour or make any attempt to rectify his behaviour.

He had time to correct - he didn't

Before I had kids I didn't realise that they were capable of biting, hair pulling, scratching, headbutting, slapping, kicking, and all the other things kids do that hurt.

Exactly.

feelingood · 04/11/2013 00:01

hideous thread.

lessonsintightropes · 04/11/2013 00:59

Erm I've had this happen to me on a plane - had my hair gripped from behind me and shouted out in pain and alarm (although not 'get the fuck off me'). I looked behind me and it was a toddler - parents did not apologise and basically looked at me as if they were surprised and cross I'd made any noise of alarm. Small child then proceeded to kick the back of my seat for the remainder of a four hour flight. Fucked off? Yes I was and massively so, although apart from the original turning around to work out what had happened, didn't do or say anything. OP, you didn't know what had happened but your husband is totally, totally out of order, and he should have had your child under better control.

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