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PavlovtheCat · 27/10/2013 21:09

...sign this ?

I am going to keep posting about it on MN until you have ALL signed it.

Probation will run by SERCO or G4S if you don't get on board. Do you want that? Really? They can't even provide security for the Olympics! And they overcharged YOU tens of millions of pounds, by pretending dead prisoners were still on tag and collecting a fee for them. Or. Sometimes, they simply made the prisoners' names up and then collected a fee for them. That's just for starters.

If these clowns don't run it, some other unaccountable , faceless corporation will be in charge of the monitoring and rehabilitation of offenders. They will hold the safety of YOUR communities in their hands.

So. Sign it. It might even be too late. But we have to try. We simply cannot sit by and let a service which has evolved for over 100 years and is successful in reducing offending across the country be privatised and risk being run by profiteers.

AIBU to expect you to give a shit? Really, you HAVE to give a shit.

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PavlovtheCat · 28/10/2013 21:03

Thanks to those who have signed. Good for you !

Keep signing, and if you don't know what it's all about, go find out, then sign! It's really important!

really important.

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TapirbackFucker · 28/10/2013 21:35

Signed.

TheWoollybacksWife · 28/10/2013 21:41

Signed

AnyFuckerForAScone · 28/10/2013 21:52

Signed.

mrsbugsywugsy · 28/10/2013 22:18

Signed

LongTailedTit · 28/10/2013 23:42

Signed

MinesAPintOfBlood · 29/10/2013 13:21

Signed

NightScentedStock · 29/10/2013 14:21

Signed. Thanks for post ing about this Pavlov

PavlovtheCat · 29/10/2013 14:28

You lot are awesome.

Please let your families know too, and your friends, and colleagues at work. We have too far left to go yet to reach 100,000 signatures. And March 2014 when the petition ends, that's too late, it will be pretty much done by then, certainly harder to reverse this.

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norkmonster · 29/10/2013 14:44

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AnyFuckerForAScone · 01/11/2013 14:28

Just bumping this. I think it is really important that people can make an educated view.

PavlovtheCat · 01/11/2013 17:55

Thanks anyfucker. It was discussed on question time, and the lack of real discussion showed how little people know about this, the impact of it or what probation do! None of the panel had much knowledge. Not even Failing Grayling cares. He left the Commons during a debate about the very 'transformation' he is proposing. He really does not give a toss about the impact of this. He doesn't want to hear it, the risk of harm to the public is irrelevant to him.

Just for the record here. The statistics that up to 80% of young men re-offend within a year of leaving prison is a red herring. Probation has never had the juristiction, the responsibility for work with this group of people. They do not have licence conditions unless they are a) under 21 (3 months, can't do much in that time, but it's better than nothing or b) have a prison sentence of 1 year or more. The stats are, as usual, fudged so that the public go '80%! really?! well, in that case probation is failing!' when the reality is, if probation were given the responsibility of that group of people, they would reduce their risk of re-offending.

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PavlovtheCat · 01/11/2013 20:13

Keep an eye out for, and support any probation staff you see on strike in your area next week - maybe take them a cuppa or a bit of cake or something Grin

Or.

Sign the petition...

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harticus · 01/11/2013 20:22

Signed and link sent to friends

Calloh · 01/11/2013 20:26

Signed and I will share.

I don't know that much about it but I do think that certain things should never be privatised as surely the motivation changes from the benefit of society to profit. I just read about the G4S prison in South Africa too. Pretty horrific.

Thanks Pavlov, good on you.

PavlovtheCat · 01/11/2013 20:26

I did say I would hassle you until you signed it!

I will stop hassling for a short while if it gets to 30,000.

Ok. I might not. But let's pretend I will and get on with signing so that I stop Going On about it yeah? Grin

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PavlovtheCat · 01/11/2013 20:28

calloh shocking isn't it? Across the world! Closer to home, have you read about the staff fired for having sex with female detainees at Yarls' Wood?

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TheWickedWitchOfTheWest · 01/11/2013 20:34

Signed. Jesus fucking christ, they'll be privatising taking a goddam shit next! If everything is being privatised wtf do we need a government for? They won't be needing their 11% payrise if there's no work for them to do will they? Fuckers! Angry

MyMotherHadMeTested · 01/11/2013 20:38

Thanks for this Pavlov - signed. Bloody Tories Sad

Misknit · 01/11/2013 20:40

Signed - shared on FB and Tweeted! Thanks for bring to my attention.

PavlovtheCat · 01/11/2013 20:42

Miskit thanks for sharing too. And to anyone else is sharing, that's great, thank you for raising awareness.

Thanks
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PavlovtheCat · 01/11/2013 20:42

n missed that sorry!

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dementedma · 01/11/2013 20:48

Am in UK and haven't a clue what this is about and dont really care either. My experience of anything g run by the public sector is that it is wasteful, bureaucratic and useless so the private sector can't do any worse
You Abu to press your political beliefs on others.

Terrortree · 01/11/2013 20:51

G4Shit nearly killed my best friend because of their negligence.

Signed.

PavlovtheCat · 01/11/2013 20:52

dementedma are you disappointed it wasn't something more juicy Grin Of course we are all entitled to our own beliefs, I am of course entitled so tout, share my political beliefs on this public forum.

I think that fact that you don't care is worse than you touting your own political belief; not that you disagree with my view, but that you have no opinion whatsoever. Whether or not you agree with my point of view, it is the lack of Giving a Fuck that the Conservative Party is counting on to continually pass measures that will harm our country.

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