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AIBU?

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PavlovtheCat · 27/10/2013 21:09

...sign this ?

I am going to keep posting about it on MN until you have ALL signed it.

Probation will run by SERCO or G4S if you don't get on board. Do you want that? Really? They can't even provide security for the Olympics! And they overcharged YOU tens of millions of pounds, by pretending dead prisoners were still on tag and collecting a fee for them. Or. Sometimes, they simply made the prisoners' names up and then collected a fee for them. That's just for starters.

If these clowns don't run it, some other unaccountable , faceless corporation will be in charge of the monitoring and rehabilitation of offenders. They will hold the safety of YOUR communities in their hands.

So. Sign it. It might even be too late. But we have to try. We simply cannot sit by and let a service which has evolved for over 100 years and is successful in reducing offending across the country be privatised and risk being run by profiteers.

AIBU to expect you to give a shit? Really, you HAVE to give a shit.

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PavlovtheCat · 09/11/2013 10:03

ilovesooty blinkered, desensitised. Anything for an easy life. Eat, sleep, shit, die. I would quite like to feel like that. To not really give a fuck. I mean, it must be quite a simply easy life. But, I simply can't do that.

Or, she's a troll.

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Busyoldfool · 09/11/2013 10:06

Signed

PacificDogwood · 09/11/2013 11:37

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.
(Martin Niemöller)

For all those who think it's got nothing to do with them...

CiderwithBuda · 09/11/2013 11:44

Signed.

JolieColombe · 09/11/2013 12:21

Signed and shared.

And to those of you who care so little about the topic that you trolled posted here to say so - thanks for bumping the thread so that people who do care, like me, get to see it Smile

fancyabakeoff · 09/11/2013 14:06

Signed.

backinaminute · 09/11/2013 14:11

Signed a while ago. It's just hideous, here's a bump from me. It's so scary

ilovesooty · 09/11/2013 16:46

Pavlov I agree with most of your post. How can anyone be like that and not care about the world about them? However., sadly the poster in question appears to be genuine and have a posting history. The same applies to the poster further back who seems to see nothing wrong in knowing nothing about politics, government policy or wider society. Since she's in my area I'm sure she'll be one of the first to complain if one of the targeted offenders in our service re offends and burgled her house once the probation interventions have been taken over and privatised.

PavlovtheCat · 09/11/2013 21:30

Oh I didn't see they were regular posters. Well shame on them. I mean, I am not expecting everyone to agree with me. But, even disagreeing with a real argument is giving a fuck.

pacific I love that quote. It's so true. Apathy is so destroying, and selfish.

Thank you for all those who are posting and bumping. Awareness needs to be raised.

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PolterGoose · 09/11/2013 22:15

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ilovesooty · 09/11/2013 22:24

Yes, Pavlov. It's the total disinterest and not giving a fuck that's so depressing. It really hacks me off that people out there have time to take an interest in soaps, be obsessed with celebrities, etc, yet seem totally impervious to government policy that affects everyone, while seeing nothing wrong with their ignorance and lack of interest.

PavlovtheCat · 09/11/2013 22:49

9 more to get to 34k. Still a drop in the ocean, but better than under 27k as it was last week!

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nevergoogle · 10/11/2013 18:30

my bump made me do it.

PacificDogwood · 10/11/2013 18:32

"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

I am the quote queen, me Grin

PavlovtheCat · 13/11/2013 20:35

less than 200 to 34,000!
G4S paid no corporate tax last year despite profiting from billions of pounds of public contracts!

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PavlovtheCat · 13/11/2013 20:40

"On Monday, the Serious Fraud Office launched a formal criminal investigation into G4S after the justice minister, Chris Grayling, revealed in the summer that its staff had been billing the Ministry of Justice for tracking the movements of offenders who had gone abroad, been returned to jail or even died."

from Independent on Friday 8th November 2013.

And these people, or others with even less contractual fee to do the work with offenders, will be managing offenders who are at real risk of causing serious harm to the public and ensuring they don't cause harm. They won't give a flying fuck as that costs money.

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PavlovtheCat · 13/11/2013 20:42

G4S staff being prosecuted for alleged fraud after direction from a judge.

it just keeps going on and on...

and G4S are about to have their immigration detention centre responsibility increased.

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CuthbertDibble · 13/11/2013 20:42

Signed

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PavlovtheCat · 13/11/2013 22:02

go on read it all. It's really interesting honest Wink Grin

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MirandaGoshawk · 13/11/2013 22:05

Signed

PavlovtheCat · 14/11/2013 20:26

Keep reading, and learning and signing ...

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PacificDogwood · 15/11/2013 21:28

Ooops!
Wink

nevergoogle · 15/11/2013 21:44

You are so clumsy, you should get that looked at.

PavlovtheCat · 16/11/2013 09:50

My new boots cause me to stumble into things you know. This thread in particular Grin

I am attempting to work to rule, in the hope the government will see how much they get for free at the moment, but I am not very good at it Blush I stayed late yesterday, when I should have worked in the morning only, 'went the extra mile' as a manager put it, and ensured that someone that was going to be sleeping on a park bench, suffering from mental health issues, with hardly any money, having spent a long time in prison, was placed in emergency housing, using a little know route, when every single option appeared to be exhausted. On a Friday evening, that was a tall order. But I refused to go home to my comfy house with my family until I had him somewhere safe. And I bloody did it, and I have reduced his risk of re-offending from high to medium (probably actually low based on my opinion but not on statistics). But not by working to rule.

Can't imagine that I will be doing that when working for £10k less for Serco et all, this time next year. I would have sent him away with nothing but the clothes he stood up in. In fact, no, I wouldn't. I couldn't. But, then I won't be working for £10k less, someone who would be prepared to let them sleep on a bench, in November, they will be working in my place.

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