Men looking at my 13year old daughter

[marmitenot]

I went out with my 13 yr old dd yesterday and a couple of her friends. My daughter, although very pretty (doesn't get it from me!), is clearly a young teen and yet men (old and young) were leering over her and distinctly 'checking her out'.

The looks they were giving my daughter made me extremely uncomfortable and really cross.

AIBU to expect men to control themselves around children?

Yes, 2tired, society gaslights women about this.

As about so many things.

Sad but true, if you dare to think someones giving you inwanted attention then you are apparently immodest

Ffs how can there STILL be women coming onto this thread denying that this goes on?

Yes, I was imagining the sexual harassment that I experienced in my early teens. It's all in my fucking head. It must be because some women have never experienced it so therefore the rest of us are making it up.

If you've been lucky enough to get through your life without noticing this shit (and believe me, it IS that you haven't noticed it, not that it hasn't happened), well, whoopee fucking do for you! But stop coming onto this thread and insinuating that those of us who have experienced it FIRST HAND and have witnessed it happening to our female relatives/friends are imagining things. It's incredibly insulting.

For fuck sake I never said it doesn't go on!

Any more than DD2, who has never been bullied in her entire life, would deny the horrible shit DD1 gets day in day out.

Why societies low lifes pick on one person and not another is far from clear.

Like DD1 I got plenty of nastiness at school, but no sexual nonsense in public.

(One piece of scum who sacked me, when I wouldn't sleep with him. His wife was heaverly PG.)

That's a good point re. the vulnerability seeming important.

Umm, I wasn't even talking about you StarBallBunny

I have just asked a group of 16 year old girls (my DDs are having a sleepover) about this. They said that sometimes boys at school were rude and crude but that it's not directed at them but at 'other' girls. I questioned them on 'other' girls and they said things along the line of 'you know, the girls that wear loads of make up and get drunk at parties'. DONT SHOOT THE MESSENGER

I asked if they were ever leered at in the street and all 6 of them said 'no, never' and looked at me as though I was daft. Some of them have boyfriends and they are not sheltered girls by a long shot.

I have to say that I have also never ever noticed anyone leering at my teen girls. I am NOT saying it doesn't happen but I have never witnessed it happening to my DDs. I am not stupid and I will not accept that it is because I am just too unaware to notice.

Do you think it makes a difference where you live? We live in a 'naice' area and I rarely hear people swear in public let alone being uncouth.

I heard some lads swearing and being a bit disgusting between themselves on the train the other days but I just asked them to 'leave it out lads' and they all apologised and STFU

I did say this in my post but just to be crystal clear

I KNOW THAT SOME MEN LEER AT WOMEN AND GIRLS.

However, I have NEVER seen it happen to my DDs and they do not believe they have been leered at.

I am not stupid and I will not accept that it is because I am just too unaware to notice

This.

Heart, no worries it's a very long thread and I haven't read every last post.

Asking DD1 directly she says she and her BF (who is beautiful) have never had any trouble.

DD1 would get shit in one particular place, but that's school bullying carrying over into a public place, which while totally unacceptable, is different.

Blimey where do you live Fuckerson, I'm putting my house on the market and moving next door to you.

I used to get perved at from 12yrs old and up.. I am very tall and was then, but I'd get leered at, whistled at, winked at, car horns tooted at me, even one of my father's friends used to make say inappropriate things like 'go and get your sexy clothes on' when I was 13 .
I've never thought of these blokes as pedophiles though. I think my daughter will have the same experience so I'll be preparing her for that.