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About husband 'smoking' an e cigarette in the house?

231 replies

Bejeena · 20/09/2013 16:56

Title says it all really! I have told my husband countless times that I am not happy with him smoking his e cigarette in the house? He says ok but then continues to do so when I am either in bed or out.

A bit of background, we have an 8 week old baby and my husband stopped smoking when we found out I was pregnant and I was rather proud of him (he didn't tell me he had quit until he was 90 days without a cigarette)

He never smoked normal cigarettes in the house before and I don't see why he should smoke this electronic one inside either.

His argument is that it is just water vapour!

I should add he is a great man and a fab Dad, I can't fault him on most things, apart from this.

OP posts:
mehimandthegirls · 21/09/2013 16:55

neebee of course you don't think about cigarettes because your still getting your nicotine intake and smoking a pretend one ha ha... what a stupid thing to say.

I think about smoking all the time because I gave up completely.

E-cigs are a fantastic tool if they work for you, but don't kid your self you don't 'smoke' because your pretending to every time you puff on the vapour. Hmm

ilovesooty · 21/09/2013 16:56

It isn't smoking.

don't know if the vapour is dangerous or not but I think they should be treated the same as the real things simply because we have managed to change the law to protect non smokers and no one smokes in public places indoors any more, surely allowing these just undermines the law as it looks like people are smoking, especially the ones designed to look like cigs. we were getting used to not seeing cigs indoors these bring it back into public arena again

Poor argument. Why should vaping be banned when it is not smoking. Smoking was banned as antisocial. Vaping isn't.

ilovesooty · 21/09/2013 16:59

plus the trend for young people who never smoked taking up e cig

What trend? Have you any evidence for this?

nicotine is a drug and is addictive

So is caffeine. Do you want that banned as well?

If I choose to use nicotine with no effect on you I don't need someone else to tell me I shouldn't just because they think it isn't good for me.

Turniptwirl · 21/09/2013 17:01

I don't like them either but if it keeps him off the real ones I guess it's worth tolerating.

ilovesooty · 21/09/2013 17:02

I think about smoking all the time because I gave up completely

As I said: your choice.

don't kid your self you don't 'smoke' because your pretending to every time you puff on the vapour

While I agree with your assessment of the physical act, perhaps you can explain why I was admitted to hospital as a non smoker?

mehimandthegirls · 21/09/2013 17:44

Ok medically as your not inhaling 2000 toxic fumes . But for some reason you were trapped on a desert island and your battery ran out on your e cig . There was a twenty deck in front of you. You would smoke those bad boys with in 24 hours. Your still a smoker in your mind. Don't kid your self. Otherwise you would have a patch on, nicoretts ect.

Hey I'm not knocking you. Good for you.

mehimandthegirls · 21/09/2013 17:46

And if you say you wouldn't , give the pretend electronic cig up! Grin

PoppyAmex · 21/09/2013 17:49

I'm a non smoker and I'm pregnant.

Last time I went for a scan, I saw another pregnant woman smoking an ecig in the antenatal clinic waiting room. I internally applauded her for giving up and clearly so does the NHS as she was allowed to smoke it.

The amount of "bad science" comments on this thread is shocking.

P.S. YABU OP

FlapJackFlossie · 21/09/2013 17:55

And if you say you wouldn't , give the pretend electronic cig up

Nope - my choice, my vape Grin

Wouldn't touch a fag if I didn't have an e-cig, so there !

mehimandthegirls · 21/09/2013 17:56

The only thing that's 'worries' me is that they are unregulated. As it goes directly to your lungs you don't really know if they are sound or if some nut case is banging them out in a dirty warehouse with lighter fluid .
But I suppose we will know in a few years time.....

mehimandthegirls · 21/09/2013 17:58

Ha ha wouldn't touch a fag if I didn't have e-cig .

Try it then.

ilovesooty · 21/09/2013 18:11

As it goes directly to your lungs you don't really know if they are sound or if some nut case is banging them out in a dirty warehouse

Several reputable UK dealers make them in their own warehouses and they can be seen at their physical retail premises.

You do have the option of mixing your own liquid and lots of people do.

As for saying what I'd do on a desert island: you can't possibly know.

PS I didn't smoke 20 a day before I gave up anyway.

pickles184 · 21/09/2013 18:22

Why is it of any interest to non smokers whether someone uses e-cigs or not? Genuinely curious, I'm an ex-smoker who used them to wean off the real thing, but the nicotine addiction was my business and not harming anyone else? It also used to baffle me why folk felt the need to come over and tell me how bad it was for me whilst I was outside away minding my own business, I wouldn't dream of walking up to a fatty tucking into a gut busting dinner to make sure they were aware of how unhealthy their choices were?
Those saying that seeing someone vape indoors is offensive can I ask if you feel the same about people drinking coffee, or even more so someone drinking alcohol (an addictive habit that causes more widespread harm than passive smoking incidentally)?
OP YABU, whilst understandable with new baby, you DH has chosen to stop smoking presumably for the benefit of the baby and this should be commended and supported. Perhaps if you can agree a compromise that he doesn't do it in the same room as you or baby?

mehimandthegirls · 21/09/2013 18:44

ilove Smirnoff is a World known reputable company and it still gets ripped off...... so a relatively new company it wouldn't be too difficult.

I know you can mix, I did my self. Don't understand what that point was for the authenticity of it though.

The addictive receptors in your brain would be screaming for you to spark up a fag as you have continued to feed the nicotine addiction. You pretend to 'smoke' a e-cig and you fulfilled your nicotine addiction. In your head your still a smoker, you haven't really given up (even though its a ZILLION times better) There is more chance of you taking the cigarettes than if you were on patches ect.

It doesn't matter if you smoker 2 or twenty, the habit of inhaling and blowing that glorious sense of well being out is well and truly sewn in to your mind.

Like I said before I think e-cigs are a fab idea. They just need to be regulated.

squoosh · 21/09/2013 18:45

Couldn't be arsed with the vaping palaver. I read The Easy Way To Stop Smoking and boom, job done. Don't want a real cigarette, don't want a pretend cigarette.

OP your husband isn't causing anyone harm by 'smoking' his e-cigarette so you should leave him be. If the children were older I'd say differently as it could make smoking seem desirable to impressionable young minds.

squoosh · 21/09/2013 18:47

I do feel the nicotine replacement industry is a big con though. Physical addiction to nicotine is tiny, the real addiction is the mental one.

gamerchick · 21/09/2013 18:51

No I'm with you op. The habit is the hardest to break everybody I know keeps the same habit by going outside. Even though it's vapor it's still smoking.

IneedAsockamnesty · 21/09/2013 18:57

When I gave up smoking using patches (as mehimand says makes you a none smoker) I knew if the patches had come unstuck and fallen off because I would have walked over broken glass to get to an actual Marlboro.

Patches deliver nicotine as does gum as do inhalators and any other nicotine replacement product purchased to assist with quitting smoking

They just tend to do it in larger hits than most ecigs.

The nicotine being delivered via a tube with a heating element in it does not make you more of a smoker than a patch wearer.

Both (if not also using cigarettes) are none smokers.

ilovesooty · 21/09/2013 19:06

The nicotine being delivered via a tube with a heating element in it does not make you more of a smoker than a patch wearer. Both (if not also using cigarettes) are none smokers

Thank you Sockreturningpixie Exactly what I've been trying to say.

ginmakesitallok · 21/09/2013 19:19

Mehimetc, let's imagine a non smoker who takes up vaping no nic liquid. Are they a smoker in your eyes? If they vape low nic liquid, are they a smoker? You don't seem to understand that vaping is a harmless alternative to smoking. I think some ex smokers think that vapers have taken the easy way out, they haven't suffered enough in stopping. We are so conditioned to believe that quitting cigarettes should be hard we feel cheated when actually it's really easy to switch to vaping.

squoosh · 21/09/2013 19:22

' I think some ex smokers think that vapers have taken the easy way out, they haven't suffered enough in stopping. We are so conditioned to believe that quitting cigarettes should be hard we feel cheated when actually it's really easy to switch to vaping.'

Nope! Stopping smoking is far, far easier than the NHS and the nicotine replacement industry would have you believe. For me it was a walk in the park thanks to Allen Carr's book.

nbee84 · 21/09/2013 19:31

The 'juice' that is put into the ecigs (I use an ego with a clearomiser rather than a 'cigalike') can be bought (and made - I make more than I buy) in different nicotine strengths - just like you can buy patches in lowering doses of nicotine.

I am reducing my nicotine strength month by month with the idea that eventually I will vape juice with no nicotine in. I will then continue vaping as I believe this will keep me off the cigarettes even after the nicotine addiction has gone. A lot of the addiction is not physical and most ex smokers will miss lots of other things about smoking eg. stress relieving, socialising, pleasure. If I find that vaping no nicotine juice has me wanting a cigarette then I will reintroduce the nicotine as it will be a lot safer for me than going back to smoking.

Several years ago I gave up cigarettes for over a year with the help of patches, so I had definitely ridded my body of the nicotine addiction. However, I thought about cigarettes all the time and after a stressful situation smoked a few and in no time was back to a 10 a day habit.

Going back to the op - well done to your dh, but the house you live in is your house too so I feel you and he should compromise. He should be allowed to vape in the house, but not in the same room as you or the baby.

PunkyPod · 21/09/2013 19:32

DP gave up with the help of e-cigs too and smoked them indoors (never smoked cigarettes inside). I didn't see any issues and now he's a non smoker completely. I'd let him carry on and just support him in his quest to becoming a non smoker.

mehimandthegirls · 21/09/2013 19:34

Non smokers are people that wouldn't run over broken glass to get to a fag if their nicotine supply ran out.

its like saying, im not an alcoholic any more, I don't drink pints of larger, I just have a coffee with a shot of brandy.

Im not arsed if you smoke ecigs, just think its funny that you are kidding yourself you are non smokers

Wallison · 21/09/2013 20:07
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