To want to leave this website for making me think about that one.

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It's really really upset me, I've had some great support on this forum but I think I have to be off.

Such a shame.

People who do not agree with you are not trolls MrsB. I do hope that you are not implying that I am a troll because I haven't rolled over in supplication ...

I didn't say they were?

The media didnt give two shits when Arrsers were posting about beating up women, including photos of beaten women. It's a website. There are far far more horrible things being done on the web every second of every day. I'd rather the limited funds available chased those people down - not some wankers pulling up a sandbag and telling shaggy dog stories to people they think they can impress.

And as for the army not bothering to disassociate themselves from a tiny minority causing trouble- that is the daftest thing I have read in a while. And very immoral when applied to all kinds of issues.

Are you honestly suggesting it is okay to turn a blind eye? Because they are in a minority?

Did you read any of that thread, MrsBW?

Pearl clutching?

I couldn't read much of it, there was a lot of normal stuff about beaches and towns and that, and interspersed with stories about brutalising women.

I don't think it is "pearl clutching" to feel upset at the thought of being brutalised with a bottle so much that you lose control of your bowels. And to be laughed at because of it. I find it hard to read about people being treated that way, even if they are working as prostitutes. For that reason I kind of skipped and skimmed with my eyes half shut. Is that really "pearl clutching"? Or having a normal amount of empathy?

I wonder if any journalist reading might be interested in following this up ?
It is worrying .

Nope not at all

But Arrse, in some respects, is a good source of support to the Army.

Like MN is a good source of support to parents.

There are, for example, threads on here where people say they know people who are breaking the law by cheating the benefits system.

Should MNHQ make a public statement decrying benefits scroungers?

Why is Arrse being treated differently to MN?

Some very jaded learned helplessness about here. And as for 'far worse things online' Yes there likely is. But unless the great and wonderful Woo is around to helpfully categorise all these awful things for us in strict order of priority (with fines should we deviate from the list), I will continue to do my own little best to do what I can, when I can.

Giving up on going to bed.

Why should the army disassociate itself with a website it isn't associated to?! What are they turning a blind eye to? Someone who is or isn't connected with the military posting things which may or may not be true on a random website? They'd spend the whole time disassociating themselves with random garbage rather than doing something useful

Because MN doesn't let sick fucks brag about rape.

Is that clear enough?

The Army's answer would be quite clear I expect. "Serving soldiers should not join ArRSe. The MOD does not condone any posts on ArRSe. Serving soldier have their own moderated, private website on which they can post. There is no need for Serving Soldiers to post on ArRSe and we strongly recommend that they do not. Any serving soldier found to be bringing the army into disrepute or acting in a way that would impact on the effectiveness or cohesiveness of the army will be disciplined"

Or words to that effect.

Usual....You can't argue with stupid. And God knows we are seeing plenty of it

MNHQ frequently make statements to the press on behalf of mothers and parents.

If someone on MN posted gleefully about some of the things on that thread, as per that thread, they would be instantly deleted.

Cheating the benefits system is not the same level of crime as child rape.

You know this stuff though, surely.

They are probably reading this & laughing at how big a furore they have caused today on MN.

The relationship between MNHQ and Mumsnet, and that between the Army and Arrse, are rather different. In that the army and arrse don't have a relationship!

Bragging isn't against the law usual?

They do that all the time anyway, Lego

today is just a bigger laugh for them than the usual laugh

LegoCaltrops probably. That was the point of the baiting thread with a link to an extremely objectionable/distasteful discussion.

Rape is against the law though.

Good I hope they are. And I hope that if any of those posting such empty souled evil are serving squaddies, that they get their dicks blown off on their next tour. And no I will not be donating money for their false penis wheelchairs...

And before you jump on me for that, I am not referring to the soldiers who may not be engaged in such evil. But they need to maked a stand against not just this but the rise of the far right extremism in the army (google the research). It is also a growing problem in the US Forces too.

As soon as I read the Op I deliberately didn't click on the thread.
I remember the last one.
The one with photos of rape victims and rape apologists and will never look at it again.
BTW they bloody loved the attention they got from MN I believe they even checked LtEVes credentials, some admitted to knowing her.
Ignore,ignore ignore please.
They are not worth being mentioned on MN.

It's hardly a furore.

Using examples of physical violence and degradation of women, in order to upset women, isn't terribly big or clever.

I would posit that anyone who would use that approach is probably deeply unhappy, and rather desperate for attention. From girls Pigtail pulling, I think is the term.

However I remain unconvinced that those posts were untrue. I don't think it's pigtail pulling. I think that the men who talked gleefully about fucking up prostitutes while serving overseas were simply reminiscing. And yes, obviously, it makes me feel angry and unwell. No-one deserves to be sexually brutalised and then laughed at. Even if she/he is being paid.

Agreed UsualSuspect... Of course it is.

RabbitIssue if you are concerned, in all seriousness, the people to report it to is the RMP.

PM me your town, and I'll give you the local unit/their contact details.

I find it quite funny that there are men so tragic that they couldn't get into the army and have to pretend they are enlisted. Losers and likely very bad in bed

Not sure what we are arguing about now.

No one has said that child rape is to be condoned.
No one has said anything in support of whoever it was that said that, or whatever it was that they said.

People are quite entitled to report the thread if they feel that strongly about it. No one has said they aren't.

It's wrong to tar all soldiers, serving or otherwise, with the same brush as wankers that post shite like that. That's like saying all Doctors are murderers al la Shipman. It would also be wrong to punish all soldiers, serving or otherwise (or their charities) for something that some wanker said. Or do we halt donations to GOSH courtesy of Saville?

ArRSe is not the army. ArRSe is not supported by the MOD. The RMP could not investigate posts on ArRSe as ArRSe is run by civilians and the website is hosted outside of the UK. There is no way of proving who on ArRSe is military and who isnt. A number of mods are ex military, but a number have no connection with the military at all. If the mods aren't necessarily soldiers, why would the posters be?

Anyway, like I said, I'm no longer sure what this is all about, so ill bid you goodnight.

Then the ex military mods need to take the flak then. Because as ex military representing this tasteless site, they are bringing the forces into disrepute.