to think well done, Kate, but...

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It's great she had a drug free birth.

But I've seen a few posts today implying that those of us who didn't manage a drug free birth or a 'drugged birth' as one person said somewhere else, are lesser mothers? It just seems like it's yet another stick for mothers to beat each other with.

'I gave my baby the best, chemical free, start in life without drugs'

Ugh, blerg and yuck.

I'm sure that persons child would have preferred Keith Richards gave birth to them rather than a lifetime of having an insufferably smug twat as a mother.

I loved my gas and air. Helped drown out my own screaming which was starting to piss me off towards the end.

Whoops, alcohol and fast fingers do not combine well.

DO NOT COMPARE THEIR EXPERIENCES TO THOSE OF YOU AND I.

Ffs ...

Wasn't she planning on using hypnobirthing?

IME, if you are having an easy birth anyway, hypnobirthing can mean you don't even want any gas and air.

Anyway, I hope she got the birth she wanted.

We would never know the real truth, anyway. William and Katherine(and baby George Alexander Louis) are being groomed as the new face of British Monarchy. We are told what those at the top want us to know.

Nothing more.

This includes what type of labour the Duchess had to whether she's breastfeeding; using dummies, and all that other relatable shit we would understand.

I am one of four. My DM spent the whole of my first pregnancy telling me how she needed no pain relief with any of her quick, easy births, even though we were all between 8-10lb.

Then she spent a day in hospital with me as I had a long labour which culminated in a failed ventouse and then a crash section

In her words "I had no idea that giving birth could be that horrible".

Everyone is different. You can't compare your own experience with someone else's as you don't know how it felt for them.

Oh cool, she's had the baby then? What did she have?

Beyond I lurve you. No one's sure. She's still pissed. Did the whole thing off her tits on Lambrini with Pippa holding her hair out of her face to stop her chucking up on it.

A girl Beyond. She's called Karly-Mai

Who gives a shit? Only the breastapo nutjobs.

I know someone famous who lied to the press and said she was bf. She wasn't - but couldn't face those nutters. Let's face it, she's rich, beautiful and famous - her child will be fine.

Breastapo children grow up tainted with stupidity.

I'm made up for her and William that they have a lovely bouncey baby boy to take home but I couldnt give a shit what sort of birth she had long as her and her baby are healthy. It doesnt matter. anyone who cares that much about whether a total stranger pushed the baby out her fanjo or whether it was a section needs to have a word with themselves imo.

I will say tho my guess is she had a pretty smooth birth judging by the fact she and baby were out 24 hours or so after he arrived and she didnt seem to be walking funny at all (I was first time round- damn stitches!) But that would be down to luck.

Oh and I really REALLY couldnt give a shit if shes BFing or not. not my norks and not my baby.

I always maintain I gave DD the best start in the world. She got born, method is immaterial.

It's bollocks, I was absolutely off my tits when I gave birth. It was an awful difficult birth and I lost a lot of blood and nearly had to have an EMCS. I would have been completely traumatised if I was 'sober'. I don't think it caused any issues better me and DS. It's nice if you can enjoy a birth but frankly, I'm just glad they got him out! I would never think less of me or of anyone for how they gave birth.

why do people make childbirth a competition?

I thought it was only Tom Cruise who was stupid enough to go on about things like this. And anyone who uses the word 'chemicals' in these contexts is generally a complete scientific ignoramus and should shut up.

Dayoldcheesecake it is a shame that you equate breastfeeding supporters with Nazism, you really don't mean to, surely?

I loved my gas and air. Helped drown out my own screaming which was starting to piss me off towards the end.

Please just don't let it get to you.

As the saying goes, no-one can make you feel inadequate without your consent.

"Breastapo children grow up tainted with stupidity."

Ooh ooh irony alert. I'm as keen as the next woman for people to be free to make infant feeding choices. But I can't help feeling that to imply some kind of moral association between people who advocate breastfeeding and the Nazi secret police who were unaccountable to legal processes and capable of making political prisoners simply disappear without trace might suggest either that you have really really lost the plot or do not know much about the Gestapo. Not sure it is the best position to accuse people of stupidity from.

No pain relief/didn't hurt=fanjo like a bucket, not something to boast about.

Not what I really believe, but just want to make those who needed pain relief (me) or c-section (me again, twice) feel better.

I don't think there's anything to feel guilty or not-good-enough about in regards to labour.
I had epidural from 2cm, tried every pain relief available up until that and I feel absolutely no regret. I did what I had to, there are no medals given for a drug-free labour and you could have the most perfect labour only to find not a single person asks about it!

Let go of the guilt and stop comparing :)

See I wanted a drug free birth for my first but didnt manage it had meptid and g&a had G&A and tens for second and just G&A but a feckload of it I sucked down 5 canisters at my home birth for my third. Now I know that after the birth noone will give you a medal if you did it drug free you are not wonder woman you are no more or less a mum then the lady in the next bed with a spinal and a c sec. I am a firm believer now if it hurts take pain relief or stfu.
If it's all about the suffering making you more of a woman then from what i've seen after the birth the c sec women have it in spades all that business with the catheters and you know the whole abdominal surgery thing stitches and that on top of being poked and prodded and kept in longer c sec women I salute you

Unless you've given birth to my babies through my pelvis I don't see how you'd know what pain relief I needed at that stage in the proceedings. That's what makes me laugh about people congratulating me on my labours. I may have been a hero but I assume that the gas and air I had was all I needed to get through.. I get a bit funny when there's some kind of congratulatory thing about not needing stitches. Did I do a lesser job because I needed them? I'm guessing not.

This whole drug free thing being best is another modern phenomenon as far as I can see. When I asked my mother and my MIL about their first births they were all vague and like "It's fine" "It's not that bad". Turns out they were off their tits on pethidine or the 1960's equivalent as injections were given as standard without the mother asking for it. They thought the pain relief modern women were getting was over and above this. They couldn't believe that they didn't get this unless they asked. My SIL was so sure that childbirth was a piece of piss and that, like her mother, she would sail drug free through until I pointed out that she actually hadn't.

why on earth have you liked a 'natural parenting' page on FB??? Why?

get what you pay for liking stuff like that, sorry.