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AIBU to think that whichever 1970s-throwback Paperchase employee commissioned THIS card should get the sack?

130 replies

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 05/06/2013 20:39

WTAF??!

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Ilovemyself · 06/06/2013 22:00

Aitchtoo. Still waiting to find out why people who go to the Chippendales are wankers. I seriously am trying to see the link in someone liking sexual parts of the opposite sex ( which is what the card is about) and sexism.

Thanks

megsmouse · 06/06/2013 22:09

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scarletsalt · 06/06/2013 22:12

But men like boobs, they just do. What is wrong with finding that amusing? This is not a real woman it is a greetings card. In real life, a woman should not be reduced to a pair of tits and women have far more to them than their physical attricutes.

But this is not a real woman and she doesnt have anything more to her. This is simply a card with the sole purpose of making a joke of the fact that men like boobs.

As i said though i dont find this particular card all that clever.

DioneTheDiabolist · 06/06/2013 22:19

Birds, I'm absolutely not knocking base humour. I love it. It's just that this card isn't funny. There are much better pictures and much funnier jokes out there. This card isn't just lazy, it's comatose.Sad

edam · 06/06/2013 22:24

I'll tell you what's wrong with the card. That I spent a good portion of my teens, twenties and thirties being embarrassed by idiotic men who thought it was amusing to yell stuff at me on the street, or having to put up with colleagues/other work contacts/random men whenever I was in a public place who talked to my chest, not my face. Because I happen to have big tits, and apparently that makes you a hilarious figure of fun and fair game for abuse by any passing male.

Just one small example stands out - I was waiting to cross the road outside work. This is main A-road in central London, four lanes of traffic. Some louts in a van leaned out of the window with the oh-so-witty-and-original-line 'You don't get many of those to the pound!' I was minding my own sodding business, just heading back to work after buying a sandwich, but they assumed the right to intimidate me.

At best, it was tiresome, at worst it was humiliating, and this went on again and again and again for years. And if you dare to object, you are told off for making a fuss or lacking a sense of humour. Yeah, it's really funny that you have to soak up abuse, again and again and again, just because you are female and - shock, horror - have big breasts.

Humour that makes fun of the tossers, the people with power to hurt others, is one thing, and a ruddy good thing too. Humour that reasserts the rights of the privileged and powerful to treat women/people from minority groups like shit is not good and should be challenged.

There are always people who will say 'it's only a card'. Well guess what, the yellow star was only a star. Meant something bad, though, didn't it? Cards express thoughts and the thought behind this one is 'women are inferior figures of fun'. Hil-bloody-arious.

ChippingInWiredOnCoffee · 06/06/2013 22:32

I laughed.

It's smutty humour - that's all. As someone else said, before long we wont be allowed to laugh at anything.

thebody · 06/06/2013 22:32

The card made me chuckle and quite frankly seen a lot worse.

YouMakeMeWannaLaLa · 06/06/2013 22:33

It just reinforces the idea that it's acceptable to gawp at breasts thus objectifying women. This has a knock on effect for society (yes it's 'just' a greeting card but is part of a much wider issue).

It's personal opinion whether that is a good or a bad thing.

I can see it has the potential to make many individuals uncomfortable and it brings titilation into a family event which many will find repellant.

YouMakeMeWannaLaLa · 06/06/2013 22:36

Or...what edam said. Well put Smile

Rather be 'professionally offended' than a professional underthinker.

BloggingAboutTediousThings · 06/06/2013 22:38

I am fairly laid-back BUT that's just yuck. yuck. yuck. Thinking about never buying anything at Paperchase again

SirChenjin · 06/06/2013 22:39

Or perhaps these 'professional underthinkers' simply have different opinions to yours?

LadyRockingham · 06/06/2013 22:39

Nothing wrong with bawdy boob-based humour, in a Bernard Manning-style working mans club, or similar.

But Paperchase? Lots of the stuff in there is for youngish girls - girly stationery stuff. Wrong type of card for that environment. Don't feel like taking my young children in there for a browse any more. Not a joke I would want to explain.

It normalises making jokes about women based on their boobs in an everyday environment - so I don't like it.

YouMakeMeWannaLaLa · 06/06/2013 22:47

Sure do sirChenin

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, opinions and attitudes shape our society and some are negative and some are positive.

I'll leave you to decide whether casual sexism and objectification are positive or negative...in your opinion.

SirChenjin · 06/06/2013 22:50

And I'll leave you to decide whether the right to free choice and lack of censorship when it comes to a greetings card is a positive or negative thing...in your opinion.

YouMakeMeWannaLaLa · 06/06/2013 22:59

Who mentioned censorship Confused That's really defensive of you!

TigOldBitties · 06/06/2013 23:05

Edam, I have and always have had disproportionately large boobs (check my name) for my body, they have been the butt of many jokes, the cause of great humiliation and I do find if they're on show the majority of people talk to them which is tiresome and demoralising.

However, this card does not incite abuse towards women with large breasts, it doesn't encourage anyone to treat women like shit as you've said. It simply highlights how you're drawn to one thing and fail to notice whats going on around you.

Look at this - not safe for work/kids if sensitive.

I don't think this card expresses women are inferiors of fun at all, I think it says eyes up twat much more.

greencolorpack · 06/06/2013 23:05

I think I know that girl!

CartwrightMiss · 06/06/2013 23:06

Well guess what, the yellow star was only a star. Meant something bad, though, didn't it?

You're likening a card of a woman with large breasts to the persecution of 6 million Jews?

Speechless.

Ilovemyself · 06/06/2013 23:24

Humour that makes fun of the tossers, the people with power to hurt others, is one thing, and a ruddy good thing too. Humour that reasserts the rights of the privileged and powerful to treat women/people from minority groups like shit is not good and should be challenged.

Nice Edam. So it is fine to poke fun at some and not others. What utter crap. It is NOT treating women like shit. It is actually saying that men are dicks that can't see past a pair of breasts.

And as cartwrightmiss says, to liken the persecution and murder of millions of Jews to this card is unbelievable.

The positive or the negative view of the card depends on how you read it. It could be saying it is ok to treat women as sex objects and it could also say that men are unable to see passed a women's breasts.

Or for those able to think in an adult way it could be a piece of observational humour that is not intended to belittle anyone.

I am sure that if you look at anything you will find something to suit a certain point of view.

Ilovemyself · 06/06/2013 23:34

And I still haven't heard the reason for why women that go to see the Chippendales are wankers. Please someone explain.

DioneTheDiabolist · 07/06/2013 00:21

Tig, what am I supposed to be looking at in that link? I'm missing something.Confused

shewhowines · 07/06/2013 09:02

*Or for those able to think in an adult way it could be a piece of observational humour that is not intended to belittle anyone.

I am sure that if you look at anything you will find something to suit a certain point of view.*

This.

I have big boobs but I still thought it was funny.

There are loads of "funny cards" on the market which personally I don't find funny. Horses for courses.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen · 07/06/2013 09:55

The woman isn't photoshopped, how do I know? I can't bloody well work out how to turn off pop-ups on Chrome and she's the picture I see a lot advertising porn sites. (No idea whether it's with her consent, but it's shots form all angles Confused)

/Not helpful.

GoblinGranny · 07/06/2013 09:57

To be fair, I had no idea what colour her bag was, or that she was even carrying one.

PelvicFloorClenchReminder · 07/06/2013 12:47

The card has gone. Huzzah.