I'm raging at the selfishness of it..

[Fisharefriendsnotfood]

We have 3 dc.. 5,3 and 5 months. Sleep is really really scare at the moment. Dc3 still feeds at least twice through the night and dc1 and 2 have both had endless colds/illnesses.. I am sahm, dh owes and runs own business.

I'm so angry right now. We went to bed early as wrecked from night before, dc1 woke with tonsillitis when we were going to bed, crying when swallowing etc. finally settled them at about 10.30 and went to sleep. Dc3 was up at 11.30, 2, 4.30 and 5. Dc2 woke once as fell out of bed. Dc1 woke once and got up when I was feeding dc3 at 5.

She was burning with fever, crying, miserable poor thing. Gave her calpol and water and put her into our bed. At 6 I woke dh to ask him to get up with her as I had hardly slept.. He outright refused . Said he felt rough and couldn't afford to be sick (referring to work) and didn't care if it made him a prick he was going back to sleep.

I'm downstairs with her now. I'm stunned. I feel like I never ever get put anywhere near his list, never mind the top of it. This is the latest in a long line of my needs not counting. Am raging! AIBU? What do I do now

Again OFSTED inspectors recommend pre-schoolers pour their own drinks.

With help, under supervision. NOT being expected to fend for themselves.

Worraloadofshit!

They are not unsupervised whilst doing it though are they?

Stressy - You are talking out of your arse. Admit it.

I've worked in a pre-school. They had a gate on the kitchen door & under no circumstances were children of any age allowed in the kitchen unsupervised (despite there being kiddy locks on everything, knives out of reach etc).

You are fooling no one but as long as you're having fun

That would be all supervised and guided stressy, you have been suggesting a 3 year old left to their own devices will rustle themselves up some lunch - not the same thing is it?

(and yes, it's very good to try and get them to do things for themselves early on but it almost ALWAYS needs supervising at that age. Humans are generally shit at fending for themselves & having any common sense until they reach the age of about 5...and even then they don't prepare you roasts, behave like angels or stop hurting themselves and doing very questionable things).

now I am laughing! 3 year old's should be able to prepare their own sandwich? Lol.

My 3 yo is no where near big enough to even open the fridge! Although she did build a house yesterday out of snow

And this "it's the deal of being a SAHM". What shite. So because someone chooses not to work in a paid job, they never get a lie in and have to always do night wakenings because the partner who works is the only one who should be getting sleep. Glad my relationship is not like that. My DH is another one who works long hours in a pressured job with lots of responsibility. He still wants to do his share of child rearing.

supervised stressy, supervised, if your 3 year old is balancing on chaos in the kitchen, you're being a fucking half arsed parent.just saying.

we didn't make sandwiches in the kitchen with them silly!! Everything was set out on the table top with plastic 'butter knives' for spreading. Also when OFSTED came round they suggested children should pour their own drinks at snacktime, which we later implemented

^ what she said.

Yes, she chose to have kids...but...

SO DID HE

Oh FFS

So what you're suggesting wouldn't actually take any of the load off and is actually an activity...

The op needs sensible suggestions

Chairs/chaos whatever

But did you send them off to do that on their own with no supervision Stressy? Or were staff stood with them guiding them at each stage of the process? Their is a BIG difference!

Can they reach the kettle and switch that on? If they have a chair to stand on.
What about the toaster? The grill...the gas rings?
The knife rack? The food processor? On the chair making a sandwich with the butter knife...just like you said.

The diff is Stressy...there was adult supervision with every move. Your pre school kids didn't just drag chairs over to the kitchen area and get on with it, while the staff had a fucking nap, did they?

I'll tell you what is sad...it's that you are so bloody minded, you would rather look a fool, than back down and admit you were wrong.
With all the best will in the world, if that is how you are in rl, you need to work on that. Your advice is shite.

Oh btw am also glad to see you back fenton

(am a namechanger...or was til recently but like your posts)

I think an average 3 yo can drag a chair to the worktop.Get out 2 slices of pred , get out a chocolates red jar or jam jar and spread it on the bread. Or were all mine particularly gifted? I wouldn't bother supervising them doing that

What is sad as well, is that there are LOADS of Mumsnetters who would happily pitch in to help if only fish lived close.
All we can do is be supportive from a distance.

and some people can't even do that :(

Yes, yes they were all gifted stressy.

Well done.

Lol! This thread has found new realms of ridiculousness

Doesn't sound like you bother doing much for your kids then stressy why are you determined to seem so careless?

Sorry stressy but that is SO dangerous.

Do you not have knives in your kitchen? or an oven? Or toaster? Or other very dangerous things? Or even just reaching too far and falling off the chair.

Young children need supervising. Yes they love making them-self a butty but only with supervision from a sensible adult.

I don't believe that for a second.

or at least I'd rather not...

*Yes, yes they were all gifted stressy.

Well done.*

I was thinking more neglected than gifted!