To not really care if DP looks at porn?

[Zaphiro]

Obviously I would if it was an addiction, stopping him from doing other things or affecting our sex life. But the occasional browse when we're apart really doesn't bother me. AIBU?

and what about the women who just post videos of selves online like that woman in the library. Who was exploiting her to do that?

Here's just one article. Google it. There's plenty more!

It's a myth that women porn stars love it by the way, here's an account from a porn star of life in porn

The Examiner gives a shocking account of how the porn industry is compliant in trafficking and how 3 porn stars were found dead after starring in violent porn films.

And here is an office American document about how the porn industry is involved in organised crime.

I have no idea if my DH looks at porn. It wouldn't bother me (unless it was something dodgy) but I am not interested in seeing it myself.

Here are some more porn FACTS

36 porn stars died that we know of from HIV, suicide, homicide and drugs between 2007 and 2010.
? 66% of porn performers have Herpes, a non-curable disease.
? 2,396 cases of Chlamydia and 1,389 cases of Gonorrhea reported among performers since 2004.
? Over 100 straight and gay performers died from AIDS.
? 26 cases of HIV reported by Adult Industry Medical Healthcare Foundation (AIM), since 2004.
? 70% of sexually transmitted infections in the porn industry occur in females according to County of Los Angeles Public Health.
? Chlamydia and Gonorrhea among performers is 10x greater than that of LA County 20-24 year olds.
? The largest group viewing online pornography is ages 12 to 17.
? More than 11 million teens regularly view porn online.
? There are 4.2 million pornographic websites, 420 million pornographic web pages, and 68 million daily search engine requests.
? 50% of men and 20% of women in the church regularly view porn.
? Of 1351 pastors surveyed, 54% had viewed Internet pornography within the last year.
? Of all known child abuse domains, 48 percent are housed in the United States.
? At the 2003 meeting of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers, a gathering of the nation?s divorce lawyers, attendees
revealed that 58% of their divorces were a result of a spouse looking at excessive amounts of pornography online.
? Child pornography is one of the fastest growing businesses online, and the content is becoming much worse. In 2008, Internet
Watch Foundation found 1,536 individual child abuse domains.
? Worldwide pornography revenue in 2006 was $97.06 billion. Of that, approximately $13 billion was in the United States.

And all the things you are talking about Rhubarb are part of the porn industry. As I said, there is plenty of non-industry related, free porn on the 'net.

Literotica is one. PornTube, although it has pro-clips, has others that are made by amateurs. Same with SexTube.

All free, although SexTube, I think it is, limits the number of clips you can watch in a day.

I think that's disingenous Rhiannon. If you think about, for eg, the children who 'work' on toxic rubbish dumps in the developing world, I accept their 'right' to do that work to feed themselves. Doesn't mean for one moment that I think it's right.

And again, for every woman who works in the sex industry of her own free will, there are many, many who do not - and how can the consumer tell the difference? What % level risk are you comfortable with? For me, it's 0%, so I don't use the industry.

Tee2072 that article is the only one of its kind that I can find. It doesn't offer evidence for its claims but gets out of this by using terms like "helped the graphics industry" - so the technology was already being implemented and they are claiming that the porn industry "helped" speed up the process.

Dubious claims but porn certainly didn't invent the internet or change it for the better. You think graphics, sound and video streaming would not have been invented if it were not for porn? Seriously?

Rhubarb you seem to be ignoring the points about how some women upload porn at the own free will. How are they being exploited?

The sites Tee2072 mentions are the only ones I, DP and friends have used, to my knowledge. When writing the OP I didn't even consider that people pay for porn. Maybe it's an age thing? We're mid 20s.

And Tee I have talked about amateur porn actually. About how it's free to view. About how there are no adequate safeguards. About how children are accessing it freely and about the impact it is having on young children. About how a cross party of MPs held an inquiry which found disturbing evidence about the number of children who accessed porn and what effects it had on them. I note Iceland are in the news seeking an internet porn ban because they are also very concerned about how porn is filtering into our homes freely and easily.

And you don't think that industry porn sponsors the amateur porn sites?

I answered you xmascow. Go back and read it. I'm not repeating myself.

no you answsered about the freecams. What about the women who just post random vids of themselves like the woman in the library pleasuring herself. Did she do that because she was exploited or because she wanted people to watch it and get turned on by it?

It is a complete myth that most women who work in the porn industry work there freely. Most are addicted to drugs actually and need to feed their habit. Most hate their job - read the article I linked to in my 11.49.05 post.

What is the point in having this debate if no-one is going to be bothered to read posts and bring up the same points that have already been dealt with?

I'd argue that children viewing porn is a separate issue to porn existing, though? Like violent or scary films. Internet service providers should more strongly regulate access so children can't see porn, and parents should too.

rhubarb you are only answering certain points. Im yet to see an answer regarding the women that openly post videos online, not the freecam girls

I did answer that.

I have no idea what vid you are referring to but it's extremely sad that such a video will now in all probability be accessed freely by children. That the woman in question has so little self respect that she can perform such an act and upload it for men to wank off on.

These free porn sites are largely sponsored by the porn industry. And sometimes so-called "amateur" porn is anything but. They are actually actors and on the site will be a link to another website, or a malicious download. A great number of amateur videos are played by paid porn actors.

xmascow,m you think that one woman who is obviously a bit of an exhibitionist is indicative of all women's experiences working in the porn industry?

FFS

Well I can't speak for Rhubarb but as I have no idea which 'woman in the library' you're talking about, your point is quite difficult to clarify...

There are numerous videos like that so how exactly are those kind of women being exploited?

Zaphiro yes they should, but everytime that is tried people go on about how the government is censoring the internet. Interestingly they discovered that 77% of women would back porn filters as standard but only 34% of men would.

So for now, most people are happy to turn a blind eye to the problem of children accessing porn, to the problem of so-called amateur porn being sponsored by the industry, to the problem of sex trafficking, to the problem of porn stars being abused so long as they get their free kicks.

I read recently that free porn is monitored by the porn industry, so whenever you click on an image/clip it is logged. The stats for what is being looked at are then used as market research for future films etc. You can't seperate free from paying porn so easily.
It staggers me that people think it's a simple concept that doesn't affect how women are being ( negatively) treated in all areas of life every day.
I despair of the fact that so many women seem to think it's just a bit of harmless fun if it's free, if their partners aren't addicted to it etc

Haven't seen the video but how do you know she uploaded it herself? How do you know she wasn't coerced into it? Paid to do it? Even the most amateur porn can be made by professionals using amateur equipment.