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AIBU?

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To still be a bit pissed off at this woman from a wedding?

157 replies

HopingItllBeOK · 15/12/2012 15:58

on Wednesday, 2 dear friends got married. It was a very child friendly wedding as the groom is a big kid himself with 2 of the happy couple's children as bridesmaids. There was quite a high proportion of children there as anyone who knew the couple well would know there would be, they are big on family and big get togethers for the kids to play together.

The bar was in a separate room off to the side of the reception room and provided the perfect place to take smaller children who were getting a bit fractious with the hustle and bustle of the main room and give them a bit of space to run around. There was a step down to a door with a ramp going along the side which created a little nook which had a table with a sofa and a couple of chairs in it.

After the meal and speeches, my 12 year old was chasing my 15 month old and a friends 2 year old round the loop created by the step and ramp. My friend and I were both standing close by supervising them and at one point the 2 year old let out an over excited squeal to which my friend told her not to squeal, so we were obviously monitoring them.

A woman was sitting at the table in the nook and shouted at my 12 year old "WILL you stop running around! It is disturbing my conversation!" quite sharply. DS apologised to her and of course we gathered up the little ones and moved back to the main room while she glared at us, but I am still a bit pissed off tbh. There was another little room off to the other side of the reception room which was perfect for quiet adult conversation but wasn't suitable for small children as it had an open fire but this was the only place children could safely let off a bit of steam as by this point we were 5 hours into the day which included a long church service, 3 course meal and speeches.

I'm not entirely sure if I am pissed off at her for shouting at my kids when a quiet word with either of the supervising parents standing right by her would have done the job, or a little worried that I have become that parent who lets their kid run riot Hmm I completely understand that children circling where you are sitting can be a bit very annoying, especially if you aren't used to small children but as I said, knowing the couple it was obvious that there would be masses of children at the wedding and given the length of the day that most of those children were far too young to be expected to sit quietly all the time. I feel like I should defend myself by saying that when the 2 younger ones on our table made anything more than a fleeting noise, my friend and I took them out to the bar area during the meal and kept them out there for the speeches so they wouldn't disturb it.

So, was IBU for letting the kids have a run around or was she U for shouting at kids being kids?

OP posts:
pictish · 16/12/2012 08:52

I think we're a nation of miserable old gits when it comes to kids by the way. We have no tolerance for them at all.

Children shouldn't be running or shrieking at a wedding?? Why not? That's what kids do!! It's a party, a celebration, a happy occasion....it's supposed to be fun!

If the woman was that bothered she could have moved imo. I understand why she snapped...and doubt the kids will suffer any ill effects from it, so I don't think it's a big deal at all...but I still think we are a nation of lemon faces when it comes to kids.

FellowshipOfFestiveFellows · 16/12/2012 09:12

No, not inside the bar, was at a large country hotel and we had one side of it with doors onto a patio then grass. The photos of them all playing footie in their wedding outfits are great.

whois · 16/12/2012 09:22

I think YWBU

I'd have taken them outside for a quick runaround.

flowerytaleofNewYork · 16/12/2012 09:24

Seems unlikely the woman knew this was the designated area for kids to run round, therefore she was not BU to expect to be able to sit down without this.

However, she should have asked you nicely whether it would be possible for you to take them elsewhere or something.

Was it obvious you were their mother? Nothing worse than at soft play or similar, when some children are running riot and you glance around for the parents only to find every adult in the room is studiously engrossed in their newspaper/chat with friends/coffee/whatever, and hasn't noticed that their child is either behaving badly or has hurt themselves Sad

ModernToss · 16/12/2012 10:16

YANBU. She sounds miserable.

As an aside, I think it's nice when an older kid is prepared to entertain much younger ones.

StateofConfusion · 16/12/2012 11:43

Yanbu, they were in the area designated letting off steam, I've got a 12yo cousin who would as your son did and entertain and wear out the smaller ones, its not inappropriate behaviour when they're playing with toddlers, on their own for no reason and perhaps it is.

The women was rude and rather stupid to choose that area for her conversation.

Me and my dp have a lot of children in our lives who are important including soon to be 3 of our own and when we eventually get married they will all be there, if anyone so much as frowns they can piss off.

Toughasoldboots · 16/12/2012 11:53

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Delayingtactic · 16/12/2012 11:56

Blimey I'm normally a right grump but actually I think it's quite sweet that the older one was entertaining the little ones. I wouldn't dream of snapping at a kid like that unless they were screeching (my pet hate) or bumping into things. Not because I don't think adults should tell off other people's children but because its a wedding, a time for people to enjoy themselves. Even I'd chill.

SpecialAgentKat · 16/12/2012 12:16

OT but Fellowship: Sounds a bit like my dream wedding! (we eloped; DH wants to have a renewal when we're better off)

I agree Toughasoldboots. She was wrong to snap and two wrongs don't make a right etc.

Still really curious about management and their wording due to OHS. Seems very strange they'd open themselves up to as many lawsuits and violations of their privileges to have kids "stretch their legs" in the bar area. I'm wondering if it was a naive waiter who said that. Xmas Confused

Blu · 16/12/2012 12:23

I don't know, (whether you were BU or not, or if she was having a fractious moment or maybe a v upsetting convesation, or she was rude, or how loud it was...maybe everyone or no-one was BU), but it was a moment, a passing event, in a great day. I wouldn't give it a second thought.

Selim · 16/12/2012 12:49

"The women was rude and rather stupid to choose that area for her conversation."

She was stupid to choose a quiet bar away from the hustle and bustle of the main reception room to have a conversation? Really? She didn't choose to sit in the middle of a ball pit and I do not believe for one second that the quiet bar was officially designated as a kids running area, let alone signposted as such.

XBenedict · 16/12/2012 12:51

I think we're a nation of miserable old gits when it comes to kids by the way. We have no tolerance for them at all.

I couldn't agree more! Having moved back to the UK from abroad it's become more and more apparent to me. Sad really Sad

lljkk · 16/12/2012 12:54

Unless the woman in question had mobility problems, then she too could have gone outside if she wanted a quiet chat. Bit of give and take, and all that.

SpecialAgentKat · 16/12/2012 13:12

and I do not believe for one second that the quiet bar was officially designated as a kids running area, let alone signposted as such.

I agree, hence why I asked. Interested to see OP backpeddle because her claim would violate so many OHS regulations it makes my head hurt. A naive waiter saying "Toddler needs to chill? Oh sure, over there" without thinking I could buy.

"Stretch their legs" by management in the bar area?

Possibly the worst businessman of all time!

Unless of course that wasn't the exact wording...

toofattorun · 16/12/2012 13:22

YADNBU!!

For fucks sake, the woman who snapped at your poor son was the unreasonable one!

She could have fucked off somewhere else to talk. At the very least she could have asked him/you nicely to try and be a bit quieter.

Don't worry about the old cunt hag.

toofattorun · 16/12/2012 13:24

Considering this is Mumsnet, there are a lot of people who sound like they hate kids on here.

Selim · 16/12/2012 13:24

If one person wants a chat and another wants to run repeatedly in a circle then surely its the runner who should go outside in December.

anotheryearolder · 16/12/2012 13:31

yabu
running is for outside only- running indoors always ends with tears ,bumps and accidents.
Dancing at discos /evening events is part of the fun for little ones though.
Have been to many weddings with small children being taken outside to have a good run around in the garden area of the reception venue.

BoneyBackJefferson · 16/12/2012 13:46

"Considering this is Mumsnet, there are a lot of people who sound like they hate kids on here."

BINGO!!!!!

I win

baskingseals · 16/12/2012 14:01

so children are not allowed to run around at weddings?

honestly?

the groom and bride had children of their own, presumably at the reception. all the haterz do you think it would have been ok if they had been ticked off for running around?

BoneyBackJefferson · 16/12/2012 14:07

baskingseals
"so children are not allowed to run around at weddings?"

The only posters that have said this AFAICS are those posting that other posters have posted it.

McChristmasPants2012 · 16/12/2012 14:28

At weddings if I want a bit of peace I will go outside.

My wedding was very child friendly, I blocked a place for children and had loads of activities there.

I wanted children running about and having fun and most of the children including my own was home by 7pm.

Viviennemary · 16/12/2012 14:33

I don't agree with children running round and yelling at a wedding. Child friendly doesn't mean children running riot. Why does not wanting to hear screaming badly behaved out of control children mean you hate children. It doesn't. It means you expect people to ensure their children are taught what acceptable behaviour is.

SpecialAgentKat · 16/12/2012 14:40

Baskingseals:

Haterz? Are you serious? Please tell me you are not serious. I mean.... haterz?
Cringes
Just... 'Haterz?' Really?! How old are you?

ceres · 16/12/2012 16:16

"Bloody hell, I'm so glad I've never been to the po-faced weddings you lot all seem to expect. kids skidding round on the dance floor, running round and having a ball is how I think weddings should be personally - but then I'm Irish and that's what we expect."

"At Irish weddings it generally accepted that the teens will mind the younger kids in whatever way keeps them busy.... I used to have tickle fights and play hide and seek with my younger cousins whilst the adults chatted and got drunk and no-one ever complained."

not the weddings i've been to. i'm irish and the only weddings i have been to where there have been lots of children were english weddings. all my friends and family had mainly child-free weddings - any children being close family and generally page boys/flower girls. this was also the case at my own wedding.

tbh if a wedding is child friendly i expect there to be lots of running around and noise. i have a definite preference for child-free weddings!