To think that my dh should have married a bloody lap dancer if he loves them that much......

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So, dh took his best mate on a 'belated stag do' this weekend - they didn't go last year when he actually got married as his fiancé was preggers.

we have just bought house, are skint, have just taken out a loan, I'm on maternity leave with our 3rd child so money is tight. Dh booked a 4star hotel for the two of em, made a weekend of it, I eeeked it out of him that they went to a lap dancing club and had 'lots of dances' in a VIP room.....

Not so much disgruntled about the fact that they went to a lap dancing club although I think they are degrading and vile but hey if thats what floats their boat, but more annoyed that we are brassic until I go back to work in new year and they have just blown a small fortune on boobs n ass being waggled in their faces.........asked dh how could we afford 4 dances each etc and he stated that 'he did not have to explain himself to me'. To top it off he was so pissed on Sunday that I told him to go straight to his weekly abode ( he works down south 3 days a week) and he will now not be home till Friday.

Just all feels a bit selfish when we have 3 lil ones and things are tight but at the same time I do think everyone has the right to let their hair down etc....

But The Sun isn't only bought by single men, is it...?

And in any case, yeah, the rest of what you said AF...

SON, with respect lovey, although i agree with you to a certain extent, i think you are straying a little bit into women-blaming territory with ghostship ( I shall desist from calling you a victim by citing "victim blaming" ghostship although the mindset is the same)

I blame the punters. If there wasn't a demand, there wouldn't be a supply.

Somerset where on earth have I said I don't accept why a woman doesn't want their partners looking at page 3? Even in the page 3 thread I said I understand why women don't like it!

It isn't hypocritical at all and in what you're saying you're trying to pass the blame into the woman in question.
I've posed naked before I got with DP. I wouldn't do it now, and he wouldn't ogle other women.

The fact that other womens partners have looked at my body isn't my fault, its the mens fault.

I'm not hypocritical at all, you're the one joining dots were there isn't any.

Thankyou Anyfucker for explaining what I mean.

I won't comment on the objectification thing because we've had all that before :o

ghost I would actually be interested in your answer to the question I posed in my post at 22:12 since it was your particular situation that put the idea into my head

you don't have to answer though, you are under no obligation and this is neither my thread nor yours

I see where you are coming from now Ghost,having read your subsequent posts and AF's summary.

I wasn't intending to have a go,rather was seeking clarification on you stance. Which I got :)

I don't think I could answer it to be fair anyfucker because I don't feel the same way as you do regarding the 'objectification' of women. I don't feel it's wrong for a man or woman to appreciate the opposite sex in that way, as long as they're single and hurting no-one.

I guess I'm lucky because my DP has never been interested in things like that, I've never met a man with as much respect for women as my DP. He didn't do it when he was single, and wouldn't do now either.

Ghost, you are not addressing my question, and are in fact sidestepping it. You say it's ok when a man is single but not when he is partnered. What happens to such a man to change his whole outlook and attitude ? It's a serious question, but I understand if you don't want to answer it. I am not talking about your man in particular here, btw, he sounds like a great guy.

Did you deliberately choose a man who wasn't a user of the sex industry then ?

I won't accept the answer "when he gets a ring on his finger" from anyone ok ? < hard stares all round >

Sorry I wasn't deliberately not answering, I thought I had.

I'm not sure his outlook does change, I think it's more a matter of 'I've got a lovely woman at home I 1. Don't need to ogle and 2. Respect her' also, when you love someone you don't want to look elsewhere. The thought of looking at another mans body repulses me because I love my DP so much. (Sorry sad I know)

That's what I would like to think anyway. I'm sure a lot of men aren't like that.

And no, he is a good man in so many ways and was a good friend when I was in an abusive relationship

Many men who are users of the sex industry to this and to a more extensive degree (p*nters and other low lives) have a "lovely woman at home". They profess to love their wife whilst buying private dances and/or looking for extra marital sex on hook-up sites, putting that "lovely woman's" emotional and physical health at risk.

Some men will always want to "look elsewhere" just because they can.

Ghost the way you describe that fictional man whose outlook changes is a man with a classic madonna/whore attitude towards women. A man who compartmentalises women into 1)"lovely women" (his woman, and his mother, sister, daughter etc) and 2) women who deserve no respect or love, only for their bodies to be bought like something off the shelf at tesco.

Not nice thoughts, these.

I think Ghostship maybe referring more to a sense of moral duty/ respect? like I have to put my urge aside because I am no longer single. I know so many men don't put I think that's what she maybe referring to?.