to think if you do the fun stuff you should attend the duty stuff aswell.

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Ds1 goes to Beavers, it is a lovely group and they do lots of fun events, camp fires, night time walks, activity days, visits to lots of exciting places- these are always well attended. As it is Rememberance Sunday tomorrow , they have been asked to go to the Church Parade.

I wasn't sure of the time, so phoned a few other Mum's- all have said their ds does not want to go, so they won't be attending. Now Ds normally goes to football on a Sunday morning, but I have told him he needs to go to the service as it is part of being a Beaver. It saddens me that lots turn up to the fun things, but this will be a low turn out ( as it was last year-only 2my ds and 2 others)

So, AIBU ?

YANBU, commitment is all or nothing in my book.

Whatever it was they did. Stood outside listening to the last post and someone talking. Lasted about dn hour apparently.

My daughter is at cub sleepover tonight. They are attending service tomorrow. It's part of being involved in Scouting/Guiding. I was a guide and never missed parade, despite being an atheist. It's not all about God. It's about respecting the community, thanking the place that allows you to use their facilities and in November about remembering those who gave so much to allow us those freedoms.

My dd2 is a beaver, she also goes to an after school club at the church once a month however this Sunday she will be at rugby as we are every Sunday during the season.

We have made a commitment to every group she belongs to and as rugby is always on a Sunday morning then it takes precedence over being at the rememberance day service in our village. Beavers is not more important and so has to fit in with what else we are doing - if we were just at home then I would make her attend the service.

It wasn't a service that's why I called it a thing cause I'm not exactly sure what it was they did. Wasn't bring disrespectful just vague.

YANBU.

for me it isnt so much about the christian aspect of it, although if you sign up to a christian based organisation then you must expect events of this type, but about learning of our recent history.

We are losing the generation that fought in the war, and the children that grew up in those years are in their 70's now (my aunt was born in 1939), so without rememberance day events then it will gradually be forgotten. And as my beloved late Grandad said "The day we forget is the day it happens again".

Chippy we normally all go, but my middle one has an appointment this Sunday. Hoping the eldest does us proud. We'll observe the silence as usual.

Mrs P explains the commitment thing much more eloquently.

Beavers itself may not be more important than other things, however personally I think taking part in Remembrance Sunday IS more important than most other things.

Agree to disagree surat.

Agree to disagree sirzy

Pictures are you being deliberately offensive?

YANBU. It;'s good for kids to learn about how lucky they are, and being part of a religious organisation means it behooves them to do the 'dull stuff' as well as more fun stuff. DD is going to a Brownies remembrance service tomorrow.

Absolutely not.

Just saying that I wouldn't drop other commitments for a service some people feel takes priority.

Was a guide myself and regular church attendee and done my fair share of parades etc

Dd us an atheist do feels differently. She commits to her dance/drama so wouldn't give that up for something that happens once a year. We have been invited to birthday tomorrow we are going. We have been invited to christening in 2 weeks. We are not going as she has to be at theatre.

You make a commitment - you honour it.

And as I have said several times she akteady took part in a remembrance thing ceremony whatever it was at school with high school cadets bugler etc. school lay wreaths at cenotaph too.

I have great respect for the lad that refused to make his promise to God because he is atheist when he wanted to join the Scouts. But I also respect the Scouts for not saying "oh ok, no one will know" and standing by their beliefs and expectations.

YANBU. I totally agree. I attended when I was a Brownie/Guide and DS now going tomorrow as a Cub and did when he was a Beaver too. Ours are also asked to attend Mothering Sunday service too.

I lost a bit of respect for dd when she said she would make promise though she doesn't believe - but hey she's only 11.

I won't let her join anyway as she already dies too much.

Tomorrow morning we've got a parade & service in our village that dd's guides go to. And in the afternoon ds1's Beavers do a parace & service in the town. And then our church meets at 4pm (in another town in the opposite direction). And ds2 is having a glucose-rollercoaster week with diabetes, just to make going out extra-interesting.

Think dh and I will be playing Remembrance service hockey tomorrow. May not make it to our church ...

Does - dies lol. Freudian typing slip as she did due (her character did) in her last show.

So the commitment to the Beavers is important but the commitment to the football club/other weekend activity isn't?
Glad Mumsnet explained that to me.

It would work both ways for us. If a weekend activity suddenly clashed with a weekday one then the one usually on that day would take priority.

YANBU.

I think Remembrance Sunday's an important day. I don't see it as a religious thing, but about honouring those who died for our country. And it's just one Sunday in the whole year.

It'd be understandable to allow a child to miss the parade if it clashes with other commitments, but from what the OP says, this doesn't sound like it's the case for most of them.

Wow. I'm not sure whether it is area or leader dependent or because of age (My DD1 is only 5 and a Rainbow) but while Church Parades for her group are far more frequent - at least monthly according to church parade calendar I got when she joined at the beginning of the term - when I asked about it (no idea what a church parade even was, still not clear on it) I was told that, while welcome, there was no obligation for us and the Leader said she understood that, as non-Christians, we would likely be attending events for Remembrance Sunday elsewhere (which we will be doing) and these were more to include those who wouldn't have events elsewhere.

This thread has led me to wonder whether or not the other parents are offended by us not attending and whether or not GirlGuides is as religiously diverse and open as I was led to believe (not that I could do much about it, DD loves it and there are no other children groups around here anymore until a child turns 8).

my eldest DD is an Air Cadet. The only way excuse for not turning up to rememberance parade is being dead or in hospital. there will be a cadet with a broken back going, another one with broken leg not parading but going anyway. It's a respect thing.