to think if you do the fun stuff you should attend the duty stuff aswell.

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Ds1 goes to Beavers, it is a lovely group and they do lots of fun events, camp fires, night time walks, activity days, visits to lots of exciting places- these are always well attended. As it is Rememberance Sunday tomorrow , they have been asked to go to the Church Parade.

I wasn't sure of the time, so phoned a few other Mum's- all have said their ds does not want to go, so they won't be attending. Now Ds normally goes to football on a Sunday morning, but I have told him he needs to go to the service as it is part of being a Beaver. It saddens me that lots turn up to the fun things, but this will be a low turn out ( as it was last year-only 2my ds and 2 others)

So, AIBU ?

citizenoscar- I don't think you should be reprimaneded for not attending, but thinnk it is sad that people do not follow through on a commitment.

Ds' beaver troop don't make a fuss about those who don't attend. those who do, get a badge- but I don't think that is right either- you should go because it is part of being a Beaver, not to get a badge.

We live in a democratic country because of the men and women who lost their lives to defend us. I think you don't need to be religious to commemorate those people who died.

Therefore YANBU. I am with the majority on here and agree that your child shouldn't be a member of the guiding/scouting movement if they don't want to accept the responsibilities that go with it.

YANBU. Mine are in Beavers so are going tomorrow but even if they were not Beavers we would still take them to the local war memorial.

I agree that children shouldn't just do the "fun" things but should understand the importance of such events and take an active part.

But scottishmummy people don't necessarily know what the expectations are.
I didn't know. When I went on the website it talks a lot about outdoor activities in fact here is the paragraph on the website about beavers:

Beaver Scouting is all about having fun, making friends and learning new skills. Young people start to gain some independence while trying out many different activities and experiencing new adventures. The fun includes going on visits, making things, playing games and exploring the world around them.

They certainly don't emphasise the christian aspect of it and I can see why some parents would not be aware of these expectations.

Now I know I am happy to send DS along to whatever is required, that's fine no problem.

they should go- it's so sad that they don't want to.

Yanbu. I am a guide leader. The majority of my guides will be at remembrance service followed by laying our wreath at the memorial. It is not about religion - it is about respect and remembering those that sacrificed their life for our country.

I think parents should very much encourage their children to attend and be proud to do so. However, I guess it's best for them not to be there than to be there sulking!

I have been on parade every year since I was about 5 missing only one year (as Ds was a few days old at the time) and will be out again tomorrow. It's something I am very proud of doing and I would hope in a few years DS will be on parade to.

Yabu. If you sign up for a weekday activity you arnt necessarily free on various random Sundays.

I don't think it's a 'random Sunday' pictures

it's pretty apparent beavers has Christian emphasis,it's in the pledge?
it's a liberal faith based movement but has a promise of allegiance
the promise is amended for faith groups

For examPle tomorrow we are going out for someone's 65th birthday meal.

Sorry picturesinthefirelight but I disagree. I think it is important that every child understands what remembrance Sunday is about.

Anything that is not weekly is random. Eg dd had Sunday rehearsals for a show she was in. All were compulsory she couldn't take random weeks off for any reason. We committed to that Sunday activity so couldn't have changed it for a one off thing connected to a weekday activity.

She already stood outside in the cold on Friday for an hour at school with the cadets.

Remembrance sunday isn't just "some random sunday" though. Surely parents of children in these organisations know that they will be asked to attend after the first year in they certainly will. Its not hard to know when it is going to fall either.

Now of course not everyone will be able to make it every year but everyone should make the effort to make it as much as possible.

Exactly, Sirzy.

I didn't even realise it was remembrance Sunday tomorrow until dd's school asked them to take gloves for Friday.

I wonder why the parents aren't attending the service themselves?

Not hard to realise, Remembrance Day is always the same date, Remembrance Sunday is the Sunday closest.

YANBU-That is all.

It's definitely NOT a random Sunday.
And this year it falls on 11/11, so no excuse for not knowing the weekend it falls on.

She doesn't do guides anyway but if she did she says she'd cross her fingers during the promise (hypocrite) and wouldn't go to church as she is atheist.

As I said she did the thing at school. They make a big thing if it at her school.

I wouldn't change other commitments for sonethiing else.

YANBU.

But you see the same attitude from parents with everything. Our infant school are desperate for parents to go in and help with reading - out of a class of 30, only 4 parents have signed up to do it. Now obviously some parents work, but there are a lot of SAHPs and I have heard several saying they CBA.
Which is fine, but they are the ones who will be elbowing to the front of the audience come the Nativity.

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