"There's nothing to eat in this house!" - DS17 complains

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Apparently there is "nothing to eat" and I am "vindicktive" because I won't give DS(17) money for a kebab and I'm "leaving him with no T and in a foul mood". (The swearing and nasty verbal abuse he's given me are evidence of that ).

We have in our cupboards/freezer, right now: pasta (spaghetti, fusilli and macaroni), rice, bread, flour, cereal (tho no milk cos he drank it all), pizza bases, eggs, cheese, tins of beans and tomatoes, veg sausages, veg burgers, onions, courgettes, mushrooms, toms, apples, pears, tinned tuna and sardines... Not to mention the nuts, lentils, chickpeas, etc... And more...

Oh, and I did make tea - a veg/tofu stir-fry with rice - and saved him some although he wasn't home, which he has now eaten...

But he "wants to eat something that doesn't look like it comes out of a rabbit's arse" (i.e. veggie food=rabbit droppings)

He wanted a kebab, bacon, crisps, biscuits, a ready meal... Something junky, basically.

I didn't want to buy him a kebab partly because we have plenty of food in, partly because I think junk food is a waste of money, but largely because he was being rude.

I think he's being unreasonable, probably because he's hungry... But am I also BU not to buy him a kebab? And more generally, AIBU -

• to expect him to make himself something out of what we have in the cupboards?
• not to keep a constant supply of snacks/junk food in the house?
• to expect him to be polite when he asks me for money, even if he's hungry?

Right, I've been mulling this over. Firstly, he should have been in bed at 1am.
Secondly, a blazing row at 1 am is not on.
As I've already said, NO to a kebab, and pack that language in right now.
There's food in. At 1am, as both of you are up, and if it shuts him up, then make him a bloody sandwich, I'm assuming you have neighbours and other members of the family who are trying to sleep? Then, in the morning, give him a serious bollocking for his behaviour!
I have a teenage boy, he can be a total git when he wants to, and in this situation, I probably would have stuffed some food at him to shut him up, but, on the other hand, mine would be in bed at that time of night, and so would I. There would be repercussions in the morning.
I don't think he needs meat as he is male, that's crap.

I wouldn't have made him a sandwich either saggy! Not after that kind of outburst, cheeky little sod.

it does make me wonder a bit if he were looking for an excuse to leave the house actually and the 'getting a kebab' was the best excuse he could come up with? Cue an over the top reaction for not getting his own way?
depends I suppose on whether this was an out of character incident or not?

I would absolutely NOT make my dd a sandwich in order to take the high road. She would be given short shrift for her rudeness and sent upstairs with a flea in her ear (with a few 'young ladys' said for good measure.

I would not pander to that kind of attitude. And I am an easy going laissez faire mother of a teenager as a rule. I think it is wrong to have a short term acceptance of this kind of behaviour. Diabetics aside, being hungry is no excuse for getting angry like this.

Also, I don't mean to be a twat and reverse the OP, but if the OP's child was a daughter the answers would be hugely different I imagine.

"There are only two types of men who are vegetarians.

1. those who try it and give up after a while (I know 3 men who did).

2. sandle wearers. "

Morebeta, you sound very uneducated about vegetarianism. My dh is a Service Engineer, fit and strong and he is a strict vegetarian. He has been for 23 years. He does not own sandals , you're more likely to see him in converse or boots. He also doesn't eat sneaky steaks before you imply it, he gets grossed out when I give the dog steak for a treat.

We don'[t care what other people eat, but when people state that you can't possibly be healthy without eating meat is annoying. It also makes them sound like complete nobheads.

*it's annoying

Agree with seeker

ffs. This whole men need meat thing - are they all parodies a la Armstrong and Miller 'me man, me hunter' sketches?

OPs ds was unacceptably rude and OP was right to not give him any money and pander to him. It's no wonder there are so many entitled idiots out there if they are pandered to in this way. Poor ickle babies

I bet the lad is tucking into a nice big meaty tea as we speak and he is all sweetness and light.

MoreBeta, your response on this thread has just been ignorant and boring. I do hope you're proud of yourself.

I think MoreBetas posts are actually a great advert for converting to vegetarianism.

People who are very anti anything never seem to understand that they are a great advert for the thing they are opposed to!

Are these the same people who turn into the mil from hell? If the op was his wife would she be expected to make him a bloody sandwich at one in the morning

Beta I am surprised. You usually speak sense.

I don't mean to bring up old comments on threads, but I remember you saying that as you all have a decent lunch your family have sandwiches and cold easy meals in the evening. What would you do if your sons when strapping young lads start demanding pork chops because sandwiches are not enough for growing young men? Would you be so sanguine if they kicked off at your wife and called her a bitch for not pandering to their demands at 1am?

I agree that your comments are tiresome. Focusing on the 'needs' of young men who need animal protein at lenght, however giving cursory attention to the fact this kid called his mother a bitch. I don't think its something to joke about, actually. The more women who put up with this nonsense from their entitled sons, the more likely my daughter will end up with someone like this and reap the 'benefit'.

I was a vegetarian during my teens and up until my late twenties.

Every time I saw my Dad he would come out with the following comment which he thought was hilarious.

"Hur hur hur bet you want a BACON SANDWICH"

Every. Fucking. Time.

This thread reminds me of that.

It's not right to talk to anyone like that,and especially not your mother who has been thoughtful enough to prepare dinner for you.How can people excuse this? It'd be a very long time before I'd be making anything for him again,even a cup of tea.

The meat issue is a completely separate one,and in no way excuses such rudeness. And according to the OP there is meat available,he just had to prepare it for himself.

Tolerating this sort of behaviour does no one any good.

And to hell with making him a sandwich after being verbally abused like that.

I wonder what the protein content of a takeaway kebab is - my guess is 60%fat, 30%water, 6%carbs and 4% water.

Holy fucking shit, he demanded you buy him a kebab at 1am?? Despite the fact that he should be in bed, never mind stuffing his face, and despite the fact that there's plenty of food there to cook??

I mean I know I bought a takeaway pizza earlier but that's because I felt I deserved a night off from the blasted kitchen. Seems like I live my life there!

You're not a restaurant or a takeaway, and if he does anything like this again I think it's like for a boot up the arse!

time* not like!

Oops, I meant to say 4% 'other'.

Oh well leave the bastard then.

'Men need meat' Fuck that I need meat and I'm a woman.

My take on this is fuck all to do with him being a man, its about him being a meat eater living in a vegetarian household.

Sorry I know it never goes down well, but if you are a meat eater, vegetarianism is shit yes I love lots of veggie food, because I love food in general and I don't really discriminate! but if you want meat, you want meat

Forget all the 'man needs meat' shite, meat eaters need meat!

1am...wanting a kebab.....being a bit shouty,......was he pissed?