To not understand why any woman would not want to be a feminist?

[EatsBrainsAndLeaves]

Seriously why would you want to be treated worse than men?

You're never going to get a group of people to agree on everything, all the time.

Seeing as though there seems to be such active dislike of certain viewpoints, why would you want agreement from the holders of those viewpoints anyway?

I have rarely seen feminists scorning women for stuff like shaving and I dont think I honestly ever seen it on mumsnet. What I have seen is feminists talking about a feminist analysis of women shaving themselves. But this is not the same as saying - hey GoldShip, stop shaving your pits ffs!

Ballroom, it is not just "one" poster. It is a whole group of them with a pack mentality, who will pile onto a particular thread and completely stampede all over it.

I often wonder if they have some sort of secret meeting place where they plot to invade a particular thread. I am not joking either, because I can guarantee that for some odd reason, on a Sunday evening a thread will be started, which is clearly going to attract that particular set of posters, and lo and behold, they all appear at once, to get their teeth into it.

Those same posters will most likely not have been posting in AIBU all day, many of them never post in AIBU at all, other than on threads where a feminist slant can be put into the posts. Their names are instantly recognisable as regulars in FWR.

And honestly, if we all agreed on FWR it would be a dead board with no-one posting.

eatbrains I can direct you to quite a few actually, I'm not quite sure how you've missed said topics!

I agree with squeaky whole heartedly

squeaky - Well if there is plotting to invade a thread then I am excluded! I do post mainly in FWR. But if something with an interesting title comes up in active convos, then I will go and have a look. Maybe taht si what is happening?

I see the same happening in FWR. Something with an interesting title appears in active and suddenly a whole load of new posters come on just for that thread.

Okay Goldship, apologies if that is the case. I havent actually been on here for about 2 months until last few weeks.

Eats brains there was a thread about shaving being a moral issue. MORAL!!! I mean wtf?

This was a particularly recent one, 'is armpit hair a moral issue'

Oops x posts

Link the threads then Goldship. I'd be interested as I'm an infrequent user and would have undoubtedly missed them. I'd be fascinated to see posts from a self-declared feminist who attacked you personally for shaving, which was your allegation.

But even if you can find those posts, why on earth would a few internet posters on a minority interest website influence you that much, politically? I genuinely can't get my head around this.

Missed that. But I would just laugh at that and post on other threads.

Well, is it?

For every radfem that has been patronising or condemining, I could name at least 10 others who willing give their time, their energy and compassion when support is needed. FWR can be serious, it can be lighthearted, it can be supportive, it can be judgemental, it can be heartbreaking and it can be life affirming. It really isn't the cesspit many believe it to be.

And I tend to only post about feminism - it's something that interests me passionately, I have no contact with other posters and am not part of some invasion. A topic on gardening wouldn't necessarily attract my interest - there is nothing sinister in it.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1558739-AIBU-to-think-armpit-hair-is-a-moral-issue

Sorry i want to go back to the 'carer' issue. If you have a child with a very severe disability, as we do, everyone in the family becomes a carer including the siblings unfortunately. It's just one person ime, has to do all the appointments and do the lions share because of the circumstances and the level of care needed. It is unfair to say that it's majority of female that take on this, or maybe it isn't as it is a majority but not by as much as you may think as 45% of carers are men

^ducks out from tent of hair foils^

I do think if you go looking for examples of how terrible feminism is, then you will find them.

Same if you go out of your way to find extremist muslims, or capitalists or whatever.

But normals know they're not representative don't they?

Handbag - a moral issue? No I dont think shaving is a moral issue. Unless you are buying razors, etc that have been made by child labourers. Is it a feminist issue? Yes of course it is.

Referencing that thread just serves to highlight the confusion.

A theoretical question being asked and points debated is not the same as judging or ridiculing a stance taken by an individual.

Personally, I think it is a moral issue when considered from a feminine perspective and my issue it that I shave because I am judged and only because I am judged. Whose morality gave rise to that ?

squeaky, as I mentioned in the first part of that sentence, 'a handful of people' on an internet forum.

Oh an this one www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1481930-To-not-have-sex-with-my-partner

It isn't a moral issue. Morals differ. If feminists think it's an issue, fair enough

Blistory I referenced the thread because a poster asked me to

I've seen here on MN the following being questioned as immoral:

Owning a dog.
Bottle feeding.
Not co-sleeping.
Paying for a tutor.
Eating a sausage roll.
Using a nursery.
Not having DC....

Agree that a theoretical position is not the same as individual women being told what to do or being ridiculed. If you want to shave, shave. But of course there is a feminist perspective on this.

And some radical feminists shave

Cleanliness is next to godliness

Only joking!

Personally, I find it a bit gossipy and unfriendly to talk about posters from another area so I come in and try and stick up for them. It all gets a bit 'and once a rad fem told me I was worse than a murderer and had let down the sisterhood for making dh a cup of tea and a slice of cake'.