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to think it's bizarre that it seems acceptable to slag off posh people

208 replies

fartattack · 15/09/2012 16:52

simply because they are posh. And to show not compassion for the well off with issues unrelated to wealth simply because they are well off.

I overheard someone today call a well spoken guy a "posh twat" in such a nasty way simply because he was well spoken.

I also see posters on here become dismissive and rude to posters the minute they find out their children are at private school or are high earners.

AIBU to think it's wrong that this reverse snobbery is almost acceptable within society?

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PicklesThePottyMouthedParrot · 16/09/2012 09:31

People get called posh twats yes.

Some of the things ive read on here about the "working class" are unbelievable.

So I think it's just as prevalent at both ends of the spectrum.

And of course your going to get less sympathy if you can't afford the range rover or school fees than if your struggling to eat.

StatisticallyChallenged · 16/09/2012 09:32

Wordfactory I don't know whether it has an impact at societal level but it sure as heck can have one at a personal level. My DH was trying to progress at work, and kept getting turned down for the job which was the natural next step for him.

We eventually found out that the chap in charge of that department had said he "didn't want to hire a posh git" (or words to that effect)

Yes, he had advantages as a kid - but they didn't translate to any sizeable advantages as an adult. Probably because he's not the wort of person who would every try to use his background to get anywhere.

delightfullyfragrant · 16/09/2012 09:32

"You people realise that's the same as someone black saying "you ignorant white fucker you have no culture!", and us all saying "that's ok for them to say as there is a lot of racism against black people, let them have a dig back".

Excellent example Smile

seeker · 16/09/2012 09:32

Rich/posh. There it is again.

StatisticallyChallenged · 16/09/2012 09:33

I know seeker, it's getting a bit dull really!

handbagCrab · 16/09/2012 09:36

Personally, I don't think you can be posh and poor. You can be posh and rich and not spend much money, but if you're ekeing out value beans because you have no choice then I don't think you're posh.

No I don't think it's ok that children are picked on because they have a new coat. Bullying is never ok.

I can see though that if you cannot afford very much it can feel like an injustice when others have new things seemingly without any effort and that some people will take it out personally on that person rather than looking at the system that perpetuates poverty for most and riches for some.

delightfullyfragrant · 16/09/2012 09:37

seeker you've still not replied to softly's post about cheryl cole Smile

Morloth · 16/09/2012 09:37

I am wealthy but feral. Best of both worlds.

It is about power really I think, any posh comments roll right off because they have no power, if you are being nasty about people who are powerless then it is worse IMO.

Softlysoftly · 16/09/2012 09:37

handbag there is also blocking of help/services. It's that attitude that led to my mothers HV not diagnosing her PND for two years until she nearly threw my sister from her pushchair because when she tried to talk about it she was told "but you have this lovely house and a husband who works stop complaining".

delightfullyfragrant · 16/09/2012 09:38

handbag crab

you can be posh and poor, there are examples people have written on this thread if you can go back and read them

Dawndonna · 16/09/2012 09:39

Some of you are particularly unpleasant people. Rich or poor, posh or not (there is a difference) there are some of you I really wouldn't choose to mix with in real life.

handbagCrab · 16/09/2012 09:39

What is being posh then if it doesn't relate to having money?

What is the point of perpetuating your inherent poshness if it confers no advantage to you and is apparently a disadvantage because all the other classes are taking the piss out of you and stopping your career progression because of your cut glass accent and classical education?

delightfullyfragrant · 16/09/2012 09:40

"It is about power really I think, any posh comments roll right off because they have no power, if you are being nasty about people who are powerless then it is worse IMO."

It certainly doesn't roll off as a child and definitely not when you end up being beaten up for being posh and end up with a head injury!

delightfullyfragrant · 16/09/2012 09:40

posh is about class and often accent

class is not relative to money

HTH's

LtEveDallas · 16/09/2012 09:40

My background is a minority that gets slagged off on MN a lot. I am common/chavvy/whatever the insult of the day is.

But apparently because I now have more money than a lot of others (I think I'm a middle earner, lots would say I was a high earner) I'm 'posh' or a 'snob'

My DH grew up in serious poverty. His mum ate every other day for years when he was growing up. But again suddenly we are 'posh' or 'rich'.

How about we stop labelling people by cash or lack of, by regional accent or BBC voices and just agree that some people are twats, some aren't. Some people have chips on their shoulders, some don't.

delightfullyfragrant · 16/09/2012 09:42

Davis Beckham is rich but not posh

There are many people who are posh who don't have a bean (although somewhere in the family they probably did but all the money was lost)

Softlysoftly · 16/09/2012 09:42

handbag so her DH should try and change his accent to regional because he hasn't the cash to back it up Confused

Ok I'm leaving the thread for a bit as my toddler is house destroying for attention, and I'm getting obsessed.

handbagCrab · 16/09/2012 09:44

Softly I understand that, I do, and it is shit it really is. I'd hope that attitudes to mental health are changing now and that wouldn't happen now.

StatisticallyChallenged · 16/09/2012 09:46

Oh dear god handbag you're horrible!

Firstly, as I said, my DH doesn't actually discuss his background, but people sometimes find out anyway, it happens and when it does it goes round like bloody wildfire. Secondly, he has tried to tone his accent down but if he is nervous, you know, for example if he has in interview, then it tends to slip back towards his childhood accent. He can't help that! He isn't perpetuating his inherent poshness FFS.

Would you think it's OK to refuse to employ someone because they sound a bit "chavvy" (hate that word) even though they were the best person for the job? Would your response to them be to tell them to have elocution lessons? I bloody well doubt it somehow.

seeker · 16/09/2012 09:46

I hate to break it to you all, but you can be posh and have a regional accent too!

I didn't actually understand the Cheryl Cole point.......

delightfullyfragrant · 16/09/2012 09:48

I have to go now too.

Many of you have proved that my point that it is acceptable amongst many to slag off/be nasty to the rich OR posh simply because they are rich or posh. Some of you have used excuses for the behaviour such as 'because there are people worse off' 'things don't hurt so much when you have luxuries to comfort you'

IMO it's a really terrible attitude.

handbagCrab · 16/09/2012 09:48

Generally I live and let live but I dont think you can say that being posh is a disadvantage in life that is comparable to being poor, which is what I think people are arguing here.

Poor people get bullied and beaten up too for spurious reasons as well. It doesn't make it right but it unfortunately happens to lots of people. It is not a reserve of the posh.

StatisticallyChallenged · 16/09/2012 09:48

Very true seeker, there are some great posh Scottish accents!

StatisticallyChallenged · 16/09/2012 09:51

I have at no point argued that it is the same as being poor. I have said that class should not be a topic for judgement, period.

StaceymReadyForNumber3 · 16/09/2012 09:51

I don't like people who look down their noses at others. End of, doesn't matter if they are rich/poor, posh/not.

My bil is rich, we however are not, any conversations involving money make him uncomfortable as he can see that we aren't exactly into the 'comfortable' bracket whereas he is rich. No doubt about it. But he's a nice bloke, why would I hate/take the piss just because he has more money than us? He certainly doesn't feel we are beneath him because we are poorer.

I don't know why people can't just live and let live.

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