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to think it's bizarre that it seems acceptable to slag off posh people

208 replies

fartattack · 15/09/2012 16:52

simply because they are posh. And to show not compassion for the well off with issues unrelated to wealth simply because they are well off.

I overheard someone today call a well spoken guy a "posh twat" in such a nasty way simply because he was well spoken.

I also see posters on here become dismissive and rude to posters the minute they find out their children are at private school or are high earners.

AIBU to think it's wrong that this reverse snobbery is almost acceptable within society?

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usualsuspect3 · 15/09/2012 18:12

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Mintyy · 15/09/2012 18:13

There are people on mn who are unable to post without mentioning the size of their house or their considerable income.

delightfullyfragrant · 15/09/2012 18:13

Are you saying the rest of us should be grateful?

No but I don't think you should "slightly dislike" them point blank.

delightfullyfragrant · 15/09/2012 18:14

Mintyy

Read the link of the post, the Op certainly didn't offer information like that

Mintyy · 15/09/2012 18:14

Oh really don't let it worry you delightfullyfragrant.

bulletwithbutterflywings · 15/09/2012 18:14

Jesus christ, there are some moronic attitudes on that thread!

EverybodysDoeEyed · 15/09/2012 18:16

I think you will find it is the super rich from overseas that have skewed he London property market

People are happy to apply stereotypes to others but hate it when it is done to them.

Mintyy · 15/09/2012 18:17

"I think you will find it is the super rich from overseas that have skewed he London property market"

Sorry but where did I say that I reserved my slight dislike of the super rich to British people only? Thank you for your helpful comment, however.

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 15/09/2012 18:19

Posh people in theory are fine, it's the boasters that are irritating. Also private schools and high earners aren't really anything to do with poshness.

MySpanielHell · 15/09/2012 18:20

Rightly or wrongly, people often do mock each other's accents. Sometimes they do it in a jokey way that the person being joked about finds funny, and sometimes they do it in a way that the person being joked about finds upsetting.

Presumably if you are in room full of people with, for example, a Liverpool accent, and you are mocked for speaking with a posh accent, the likelihood of being upset by this is the same as if you had a Manchester accent in that situation.

mrscumberbatch · 15/09/2012 18:21

There is prejudice against the working classes. I can say that as a working class person.
The issue is that we are all tarred with the same brush.

There is prejudice against the middle/upper classes. I can say that as somebody who's married a wealthier person.
The issue is that they are all tarred with the same brush.

To summarise: Not all working class types live on bad estates and bring up their children on McDonalds. Nor do they have a chip on their shoulder about people who have been more fortunate than themselves.
Not all middle/upper class types think that they are superior to anybody else. Nor do they bring up their children on a diet of lobster and caviar and live in mansions.

Can we stop making stupid generalisations and just agree that some people are dicks and some people aren't. Regardless of income or social status.

delightfullyfragrant · 15/09/2012 18:21

There is a difference between mocking a friend and talking nastily about a stranger simply because they are posh.

Or lacking sympathy for someone simply because they are rich.

IawnCont · 15/09/2012 18:26

Yes delightfully and it works the opposite way too. There is a difference between mocking a friend and talking nastily about a stranger simply because they are working class.
Or lacking sympathy for someone simply because they are poor.

RubyFakeNails · 15/09/2012 18:41

I see MrsCumberbatch is not in agreement with her husband on every issue.

However I really do think tough shit to this 'ishooo', flame me, I gives no fucks.

I was brought up impeccably, in horrible council estates around inner London and yes everyone I knew apart from teachers and doctors was working class and poor and 'common'. I then went into an industry totally saturated by fucking Jocastas and while I have loved and been (and still am) very good friends with a fair few I have zero sympathy for posh bashing. Ive spent my life being thought of as thick, common and poor and being judged and mocked massively. We all have our crosses to bear but I know I could bear quite a few more heavy crosses if I had the upbringing or wealth or opportunities of the majority of posh people. Out of all the hardships you could endure its hardly anything to right home about particularly if said home is one country pile.

Obviously being posh is relative though and I know people will post they were called posh because they were working with a bunch of hairy arsed dockers and are actually a right ruffian themselves but whatever, I can be common as muck or the queen of sheba but I still know who's had it easier.

mrscumberbatch · 15/09/2012 18:51

Ruby, we actually are in agreement most of the time as we're not bound by our backgrounds.

Presumably, although you had friends that you'd describe as posh, they were not the ones 'judging' you. So my theory that arseholes come from everywhere still stands. It's not to do with class or money, it's to do with being an arsehole.

I agree with your 'posh is relative' remark.

I don't agree with the 'having it easier' though. There's just as many pitfalls and responsibilities.

LucieMay · 15/09/2012 18:53

Despite being fairly intelligent and eloquent (I hope), I will always find it much more comfortable chatting to a group of people with "any" regional accent (I have a strong Lancashire accent) than I will with "posh" people. With the "well spoken" I always feel thick and out of my depth and that my intelligence is being judged.

OneMoreChap · 15/09/2012 18:53

I went to a boarding school, but had a rather RP accent.

I got beaten up for being posh, thinking I was better than anyone else, being rich, being a 'puff'.

I'd learned English abroad, largely from the Home Service... (Long Wave)

It stopped once I'd learned the best way to deal with physical bullies. It didn't happen again.

mrscumberbatch · 15/09/2012 18:55

Lucie, my gran speaks RP (received pronounciation) and is as thick as mince. (Bless her.)

It's just another accent.

MySpanielHell · 15/09/2012 18:55

Maybe the point is that people who have privilege, of whatever kind, are much more likely to end up in a situation where they can keep other people down by using that privilege to push them out.

There have been various threads on here where people have said how important it is to teach children to speak 'without an accent' (by which they mean posh), behave in certain ways, have certain interests etc in order to get on in life. But nobody suggests that posh people should learn to ape the manners and accent of the average person from Liverpool, because that isn't required generally in order to get on in life.

IawnCont · 15/09/2012 18:58

A lot of the issue is accents, isn't it? I have a very strong Welsh accent, and people are frequently astounded when they learn I am intelligent and have a good job.
I remember a holiday in a seaside town that public schoolboys (late teens) used to holiday after exams. They were horrifically rude and dismissive of any locals, and anyone with a regional accent. :(

Dawndonna · 15/09/2012 19:06

The problem with being so called posh, is that if you are abused by your parents in any way whatsoever as a child, no fucker believes you. Money etc doesn't help that.

inabeautifulplace · 15/09/2012 19:15

Mrscumberbatch obviously bringing you children up properly is the right thing to do. It's just that the three things you mentioned prior to that statement (regional accent, where you live, the theatre) to me are not even on the radar wrt a proper upbringing.

The weedgies I've met have a common pastime of extracting the urine, are they not just picking up on common differences?

PlopButNOPudding · 15/09/2012 19:19

'There are people on mn who are unable to post without mentioning the size of their house or their considerable income'

So what?

I've seen these posts and tbh the vast majority are not boasting. Just stating a fact.

There are also posters on here who can't post without talking about how low their income is or how tiny their house is. But that's ok right???

OP YANBU.

Socknickingpixie · 15/09/2012 19:22

yanbu. i dont like it never have people are just people some are twats most are not

mrscumberbatch · 15/09/2012 19:22

The 3 things that I remarked upon you have taken out of context.

These are things that my ex colleagues picked up on to try and make life difficult. They weren't ripping the pish, they were being malicious and made threats towards me and my family. I don't see how any of these things can warrant such a reaction. (They all subsequently got sacked but that's another thing entirely.)

I never mentioned that these were anything to do with a proper upbringing. In fact what I did say repeatedly was that the only things required for a proper upbringing are care,support, morals and values.