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to think it's bizarre that it seems acceptable to slag off posh people

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fartattack · 15/09/2012 16:52

simply because they are posh. And to show not compassion for the well off with issues unrelated to wealth simply because they are well off.

I overheard someone today call a well spoken guy a "posh twat" in such a nasty way simply because he was well spoken.

I also see posters on here become dismissive and rude to posters the minute they find out their children are at private school or are high earners.

AIBU to think it's wrong that this reverse snobbery is almost acceptable within society?

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StatisticallyChallenged · 16/09/2012 09:04

Sadly I think some people do equate rich and posh, and assume that if someone is relatively posh they are also wealthy.
Although I did hear one of my in laws scathingly describes a porsche driving, juicy couture and louis vuitton wearing family very scathingly as "new money".

MorrisZapp · 16/09/2012 09:05

Seeker, you have to be kidding. This country adores posh people? Really?

I wonder how Boris's kids would fare in an urban comp. I wouldn't think they'd get much adoration.

My brother had to pretend to like football for years just to avoid getting physically attacked at school - my brother isn't full on posh, just MC and quite quiet.

wordfactory · 16/09/2012 09:11

softly I didn't say it was okay to slag off rich people. I didn't say some comments don't hurt.

But at the end of the day the sheer advantage most posh/rich people have in the UK (this goes way beyond a nice car and permeates every aspect of life) means that it has a disproportionately small effect at the end of the day.

Proudnscary · 16/09/2012 09:12

I really don't think we have a posh bashing problem in this country.

You may well have heard someone say 'posh twat', you will surely also have heard people say 'chavvy twat', 'fat twat', 'rude twat', 'gormless twat', 'ginger twat' and various other offensive terms out of the mouths of wallies.

And even if posh people do take a battering, then we they are hardly the most vulnerable section of society so so what?

wordfactory · 16/09/2012 09:16

Yes proud that's it.

People slag off fat people and they go off to poor health and early deaths and general judgement.

Poeple slag off benefit claimants and they go off to poor housing, poor health and dreading xmas.

People slag off posh/rich people and what exactly.....?

gazzalw · 16/09/2012 09:16

How do you define 'posh'? DW is very 'posh' but we don't live that lifestyle at all - but she is very friendly and outgoing to everyone and if anyone's the snob in our household it's me and I grew up on a council estate!

handbagCrab · 16/09/2012 09:16

It must be hard when you're diamond shoes pinch you, it's just like when you only have one pair of shoes with holes in and it rains!

When well off people slag off and stereotype poorer people it is exactly the same and has the same consequences doesn't it as poorer people slagging off the more well off?

Having the 'right' accent, going to a private school, having cultural foreign holidays, affording tutors to help you through the bits you don't get, parents who can pay for you to live and do internships and who know the people who can get access to well paying jobs etc. is totally on a par with growing up on benefits in a sink estate with no future prospects. I can see why 'posh' people feel aggrieved when people with less take the piss out of them. It must be soul destroying.

On a more serious note, this has actually made me realise how fortunate I am and I need to stop moaning that I don't have a garden for ds to play in as we're still better off than most.

That's not to say well off people don't have problems, such as relationship or friendship or psychological but generally they will have more resources at their disposal to tackle those problems than someone with less money.

delightfullyfragrant · 16/09/2012 09:17

"And even if posh people do take a battering, then we they are hardly the most vulnerable section of society so so what?"

Nice Hmm

Softlysoftly · 16/09/2012 09:18

wordfactory but those advantages have nothing to do with their emotional stability so won't in any way mitigate a slagging off Confused

A very "posh" friend with every advantage can be reduced to bits by the merest hint of someone disliking her, she was beaten by her dad as a kid who then shot himself, all her "advantages" don't make her more capable of taking it.

I've also know some non-posh people with hides like rhinos.

TheSkiingGardener · 16/09/2012 09:18

So what this thread seems to be saying is you can slag off posh people because they will just buy themselves something nice and get over it.

That's a shockingly appaling attitude to have to ANY other human being.

usualsuspect3 · 16/09/2012 09:20

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delightfullyfragrant · 16/09/2012 09:20

handbagcrab

Many posh people do not have all you have described and many middle earners get tutors and have foreign holidays. The very same middle earners who make abusive comments to the posh.

delightfullyfragrant · 16/09/2012 09:23

usualsuspect

please don't patronise me of course I don't think it's acceptable.

usualsuspect3 · 16/09/2012 09:23

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handbagCrab · 16/09/2012 09:24

Are they posh then? Or just well spoken poor? In which case they still have one advantage over other poor people (the right accent) and possibly another (not poor posh people they know or are related to who can give them a leg up).

seeker · 16/09/2012 09:24

Gosh, people are getting very heated very quickly!

Of course it's not OK to be unkind to anyone. I just think that in general the non- posh have a much harder time in this as in most other areas of life than the posh.

And that the posh can get away with a lot more in the eyes of the Great British Public than the not posh.

StatisticallyChallenged · 16/09/2012 09:25

Just because both sides get slagged off doesn't make either acceptable.

wordfactory · 16/09/2012 09:25

theskiing not at all.

What this thread is saying is that it isn't nice at all to slag off the posh/rich.
But that saying it is comparable to the slagging off that the poor receive is delusional.

Yes being called a psoh twat might sting. But it doesn't have any impact on a societal level.

usualsuspect3 · 16/09/2012 09:25

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Softlysoftly · 16/09/2012 09:25

usual please read my pps it's not fucking acceptable to slag off anyone as a group, each person should be taken on their individual merits.

It is not ok to self someone off just because they claim benefits.

It is not ok to slag someone off because they have a large bank account.

You people realise that's the same as someone black saying "you ignorant white fucker you have no culture!", and us all saying "that's ok for them to say as there is a lot of racism against black people, let them have a dig back".

seeker · 16/09/2012 09:26

"Are they posh then? Or just well spoken poor?" There it is again- posh and rich being synonymous.

LtEveDallas · 16/09/2012 09:27

It must be hard when you're diamond shoes pinch you, it's just like when you only have one pair of shoes with holes in and it rains!

So because I can afford to buy the school coat for my daughter, but her friends mum can't, it didn't hurt my DD when she was picked on because of it?

Really? Nice.

delightfullyfragrant · 16/09/2012 09:28

usual

It still doesn't make it ok though does it? It seems acceptable and for the record I have seen much more than simply "calling someone a bit posh". I have seen a young boy heavily beaten for being posh amongst other things.

handbagCrab · 16/09/2012 09:30

Most folks on here that need counselling can't afford it and are on long NHS waiting lists for example. A rich/posh person would be able to afford private counselling for help immediately.

If a rich/posh person is an alcoholic say, they can afford private rehab and support. It might not work but it's an option available to them that's not available to poorer folks.

If a rich/posh person requires medical treatment they can go private for many aspects of their care which is quicker and they will get more one to one help and support to help them recover quicker.

So it's not to say that rich/posh people don't have some of the same problems as poorer people but that if they do they can access help and services that the poorer people can't. They may not choose to for their own reasons but they have the options that others don't.

Softlysoftly · 16/09/2012 09:31

Of course it bloody does word a lot of "posh" people hide their background through fear of people's changing opinions, I know I have faced it numerous times.

In fact it seems more acceptable, slag off the common man and people generally get pulled up for abusing the meek easily upset abused poor, slag off the posh and hey well they have had advantages so they can take it.

This thread is proving the point of that attitude.

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