to think it's bizarre that it seems acceptable to slag off posh people

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simply because they are posh. And to show not compassion for the well off with issues unrelated to wealth simply because they are well off.

I overheard someone today call a well spoken guy a "posh twat" in such a nasty way simply because he was well spoken.

I also see posters on here become dismissive and rude to posters the minute they find out their children are at private school or are high earners.

AIBU to think it's wrong that this reverse snobbery is almost acceptable within society?

Inverse snobbery is alive and well, on here and in RL, and seems to be the last acceptable form of prejudice.

I like the American way, where people are proud of their children being honours students, kids don't get beaten up and bullied for being bright, success in business in applauded, and people are accepted for who they are, not how they were brought up or where they live. My parents moved to America 15 years ago and will never come back, for this (and other) reasons.

Oh teh whole class system thing pisses me off and we Brits are HORRENDOUSfor it. Yes we slag off posh twats but I expect that is because the Chavs feel resentful for being branded chavs etc. GET OVER IT PEOPLE!

Yanbu I do not uderstand jealousy over money. If I was wealthy enough my DS would be privately educated. Good for them I feel. It is just jealousy and I love to hear well spojen people of all walks of life.

Agree with panic

I do mean posh twats and chavs as ironic but I'm a bit about class attitudes that STILL prevail especially when people have kids. (Oh I don't want my offsprring to hang out wiyth more common offspring seems particularly common round here).

I think I'm saddest when children start labelling each other 'posh' when it is solely down to their parents.

My DD was called Posh at school because we bought her a school coat. It's a warm fleece inner with a waterproof and wind proof outer. It cost about £20 and I thought it was fantastic value for a very good coat.

Her 'best' friend (who also took the piss out of DDs shoes) told DD she was 'posh' and a 'snob' having this coat. She was so horrible about it that DD refused to wear it, until, thankfully the girls favourite TA bought one.

I did challenge the mum, told her I wasn't happy and she said we were 'flaunting our money' and it made her DD feel bad. Now I KNOW that is bollocks. What 5/6 year old has the concept of how much £20 is? And ok, if £20 is a substantial part of your budget, I get that you wouldnt be able to afford it, but how the hell does that make my DD a 'snob' or 'posh'? Should I not have bought DD the coat that I could afford because someone else in the class couldn't? Sadly this mum seems to have issues around anything that costs money and is opening sneering about it.

(oh and 3 years on the coat is still going strong, so actually it was one of the least expensive coats ever, relatively)

I hate the benefit bashing that goes in here, and love the helpful and informative posts from people who have 'been there' with regard to cheap meals, benefits, housing etc but I also see a lot of 'but I had it worse than you' posts and nastiness to people who are more wealthy. That's not fair.

I will NEVER judge someone based on their accent, income, home or bloody school coat. Only twats do that.

LtEveDallas.... so this holy grail of decent £20 coats..... are they still being sold because I could do with one?

And hear hear, class snobbery whichever way it's directed is twattery

Sorry Mrsc, your experience does sound awful. I don't quite understand why you think I've taken it out of context though. You mention those 3 things, then you say it's ridiculous that being brought up properly marks you out as being Posh. The only way I can read that is that they've marked you as being Posh because you speak differently, live somewhere nice and visit the theatre. And that you see those things as being traits of being brought up properly.

"I had a horrendous time at my old workplace because they all had broad Glaswegian accents and I didn't.

There was constant sniping about where I lived, (not the shittest area.) and what I got up to with DD (I took her to the theatre to see Charlie and Lola, not a fucking Opera!!!)

It makes me a bit paranoid about dealing with people, so I'm extremely guarded now.

Ridiculous that being brought up properly marks you out as 'Posh'."

Tim Minchin Context

I think Tim Minchin covered all these issues rather well...

nah it's more fun to slag off the middle classes, not proper posh people, they're generally quite fun

Lol germy

Ah, there should be an extra paragraph in there for sure. sigh

What I meant to say, was that from these 3 examples, some individuals decided that I was therefore, posh.

Going to see Charlie and Lola at the theatre DEFINITELY doesn't make anyone posh. It just means that they have a high pain threshold

I was brought up to believe in morals blah blah etc and so would never pick up anyone for what they did at the weekend. Whether it be going to the Algarve in your ruddy private jet or drinking buckfast in the park. It's none of my business and the choice of the individual. If you want to dislike somebody, keep it to yourself. Gossip is for bawbags.

It doesn't matter anyway whether I'm a total scumbag or not. The point still stands, "It's ridiculous that being brought up properly marks you out as 'Posh'"

I agree with MrsCumberbatch up there

People who stereotype are dicks, regardless of their socio economic status.

The problem I have encountered on MN is that stereotyping, and dismissing, rich people is ok, but any stereotyping of poor people gets leapt on with ferocious abandon.

Both should obviously be stamped on.

When I lived up north I was always being called posh because I was from down south! I took it as a compliment.
Also being posh and being rich are a bit different, I have a very posh friend who's family are as poor as church mice, they live in a massive house that her father inherited then mortgaged to convert into flats, then ran out of money so they live on the bottom floor and the rest is a building site as they have no money to finish it :(

Also the most wealthy person I know drives around in a clapped out old land rover and often has his dog with a bit of bale string as his lead!

dh and I both are well spoken due to where we were born and our parents and people assume we have money - little do they know. Don't see why we have to match our voices to our accounts.

I grew up firmly in the middle of the income range at my school and experienced examples of both types of snobbery.

My mum wouldn't let me 'play out' on the nearby council estate. I could go to friends' houses there as long as we were going to be playing inside and my mum or dad picked me up - this was up to about age 14 . Obviously after a while I was so embarrassed by those rules that I stopped going to the estate at all.

I was also a terrible inverse snob as a teenager. There were only 3 private schools in our county so they used to play matches against us and join in inter school things. I remember being so cruel to the private school girls (not as an individual but with a sort of pack mentality). We were nasty.

I think there's still pretty rampant class attitudes actually. DH and I grew up with totally different backgrounds (think rough as heck council estate vs Burke's peerage!)

I managed to persuade my mum to send me to a half decent high school in a better area where I spend 5.5 years being ribbed mercilessly because I was a "chav", "schemie" etc etc etc. This was ironic, as I'd spent primary school being called posh because I didn't swear like a trooper.

DH on the other hand, went to private school but was just normally intelligent, not amazingly academic. Had beggar all decent guidance when he was making uni/career choices and ended up working in the same call centre as I was working in part time while I studied. Over the years I've seen him be slagged off, bullied and even (on several occasions) turned down for jobs in that environment for being "too posh." He was quite literally turned down for a job because his accent was too upper class. And it isn't even that onbious IMO.

Our families are incapable of even communicating with each other. Most of mine don't like him because they thing he's "up himself", "stuck up", "speaks funny"... his didn't like me because of where I come from and assumed I was after money (ha bloody ha). They've calmed down a bit now that I have a professional job.

Because of the still pretty raging classism neither of us tend to reveal much about our backgrounds in reality.

Darlings, I really could not give the merest fuck.

i had a pooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo and you had tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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wtf thisisnotrhubarb

I take people as I find them. There are shitty people from all walks of life and super ones too, so I try not to judge on first appearances.

Posh does not =rich.

And non posh people slagged off a bloody sight more than posh people.in my experience poshnpeople can get away with murder and the Great Briris Public rolls ofer and let's them tickle their tummies.

The general response to Boris Johnston is a perfect example.

I think seeker is right.

I was brought up in abject poverty on a sink estate.
My DC are brought up in absurd advanatge and are posh.

One of these upbringings was harder than the other .