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TO THINK MIXED RACE PEOPLE ARE TREATED DIFFERENTLY?

246 replies

MyBaby1day · 15/09/2012 04:09

As a young woman who is half Asian, half English I think this is so. I also have an illness (and maybe good genes too Grin) that also makee me look a LOT younger than my age and when people see me quite a few (especially women) smile like cheshire cats.....maybe I'm just being too suspicious but somehow I don't always think it's genuine. Kind of like spot me (smiling)......"oh sweet half Asian girl"...I walk away....YUK!, how could her Mother! Angry. Then you get people who as soon as they see a white woman in tow with a clearly looking half Asian person....lets just say the look on their face says it all!. Some people are cool with it but I just think when it happens it's oppressive and wrong!. I NEVER judge other people (who behave in a reasonably decent way) and think everyone else should be the same. Before anyone asks I am very happy about my racial heritage, tapping into both my Asian and English roots (the Asian side kind of dominates) but overall love it. I must also be fair and say I have also had prejudice of some Asian people also (but not half as much). I just thought I'de raise the issue!, it might help in the fight against racism. Your thoughts?.

OP posts:
worldcitizen · 15/09/2012 10:49

rasberry Grin

Birdsgottafly · 15/09/2012 10:55

I think that attitude does still pervade in areas that are not diverse

It happens in areas that are diverse as well, unfortunately.

I look fully white, but my background is mixed. My sister and middle DD (the colouring skipped me) are olive skinned/brown eyed, have 'black' features and suffer prejudice because of that.

Because i have a mixed family, i understand what is racism, more than those around me that swear they are not racist, but air discriminatory views.

They don't air these views around anyone who isn't white, but unless you know my family, you would think that i was, iyswim, so i hear much more racism than my non white friends/family.

My Mum left one area that she lived in because of what she was called and it went towards her decision to end one of her marriages.

I thought that this thread was going to be about the disrespect that i hear towards Asian/Thai women, because even when woring as nurses i have heard frequent 'sucky, sucky 10 dollar', jokes aimed at them.

OP, a lot of people do see an attractive Asian girl and link her to the sex trade.
So i can understand what you mean if it is a smug sort of smile.

Racism takes many forms, as does sexism, it is just a matter of applying negative sterotypes and assumptions to the person that they are looking at.

Mrsjay · 15/09/2012 10:58

Yes, the post is strange, especially when written in the middle of the night/early morning. Now OP probably went to bed sleeping of the hang-over

Don't evny THAT headache Grin

Birdsgottafly · 15/09/2012 10:59

and I can honestly say I've never noticed any funny looks when we are out.

You've just been fortunate, then.

I can see a change in attitude when it becomes obvious that i am my middle DD's mum and when i have my other two out wiyh me (my eldest looks fully white), there are raised eyebrows.

WorraLiberty · 15/09/2012 11:01

I'm confused.

I live in London and given the vast skin colour range of Asian people, I couldn't spot a half Asian/half English woman if she came up and bit me on the arse Confused

worldcitizen · 15/09/2012 11:02

MrsJay Grin

SoleSource · 15/09/2012 11:04

Agree with Birds.

MNhoneydragonHQ · 15/09/2012 11:05

Yet you'd spot a Mnet scarf from 350 yds Worra Grin and leg it in the opposite direction

WorraLiberty · 15/09/2012 11:07

Why of course honey, I'd smell the tofu and stale cigarette smoke on it Grin

SomersetONeil · 15/09/2012 11:15

"oh sweet half Asian girl"

What the actual....? Do people really think like this?

I don't think I've thought of anyone in such, um, breeding terms, like, ever... Grin

Oh look - 1/4 Greek! Actually, um no... clearly 1/16th Greek, 1/8th ^Portuguese and 1/8th Australian, you utter eejit... Hmm

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 15/09/2012 11:19

i can see why having your mother abused by a racist guy on the basis that he had seen your dual heritage would be a formative experience, to be fair, but you can surely see from this thread that it is wildly out of control in your head, and causing you some damage i should think. i really would seek out some sort of talking therapy so that you can unwind your current state from that incident. i do sympathise, though, for someone to do that to your mother (esp in front of her child) is simply despicable and frankly bound to screw you up.

Birdsgottafly · 15/09/2012 11:20

"oh sweet half Asian girl"

You would be surprised how many people would automatically think that she had come from a Thai bride situation.

WhatYouLookingAt · 15/09/2012 11:21

I think you should use your awesome mind reading abilities for good.

worldcitizen · 15/09/2012 11:28

birds thanks for sharing.

Birdsgottafly · 15/09/2012 11:31

The most blantant public types of racism that i see (i am a people watcher) on a day to day basis is directed towards women wearning Burka's or Thai women, in my city centre (Liverpool).

We have a market that consists of mainly Muslim men and racism against black people would be challenged.

But i think what i have noticed is an increase in double or triple discrimination, because of religion/nationality and gender.

Unless you had read around this subject, Neil Thompson writes alot on this, you may not understand.

I don't know if the OP is genuine but this is being written about more and more acedemically.

Racism or discrimination changes as our society does.

scentednappyhag · 15/09/2012 11:31

whatyoulookingat Grin (non racist obvs)

FreudiansGoldSlipper · 15/09/2012 11:34

i sort of get what you mean op. i do not suffer racisim directly myself but in an indirect way

i am mixed white english/asian but i look european (most people think i am spanish). i hear a lot more racism when i am with white people and i have to often point out they are talking about my family but of course my family is different Hmm that annoys me more than anyting

my friends parents are from vietnam and the amount of snide remarks she gets is shocking, she is a very charming very beautiful woman and the horrible remarks do tend to be mainly from women :( and a few from men who think they are funny

worldcitizen · 15/09/2012 11:35

birds
Racism or discrimination changes as our society does

Yep, agree.

rockandahardplace2012 · 15/09/2012 12:34

Wow dont you sound just a tad big headed, maybe they was looking at you because your so amazingly gorgeous Hmm

Birdsgottafly · 15/09/2012 12:45

"my friends parents are from vietnam and the amount of snide remarks she gets is shocking, she is a very charming very beautiful woman and the horrible remarks do tend to be mainly from women"

The latest 'funny' is to directly ask if they are a ladyboy.

"Wow dont you sound just a tad big headed, maybe they was looking at you because your so amazingly gorgeous"

Be around groups of men when a remotely good looking Thai women walks passed and listen to the remarks, even from 'educated' men. Mind you i have also heard, "she'd have to be the brothel cleaner" at the less attractive women.

Most of MN must live in a bubble.

FreudiansGoldSlipper · 15/09/2012 15:21

i agree i think many on MN do live in a bubble, if they do not feel that way then how can others or i have never seen it my black/asian whatever friends never encounter racism or very little. i think if you are white have grown up mainly around white people you may not be as sensitive towards underhand racisim as others may be

how many thought chris moyles was funny when he did his i am a black man from new york hold your hands up joke yet halle berry did not but was accused of being over sensitive

LydiasMiletus · 15/09/2012 15:47

I don't thi k anyone has said it doesn't exist

worldcitizen · 15/09/2012 15:52

Birds and Freudian it is not being really imaginative, if only due to you not having experienced something or because your friend/BIL/neighbour/co-worker XYZ has not experienced or shared bad experiences it could not be true or at least it cannot be THAT bad....

However, I do believe all of us live in their bubbles, some in one bubble and others in more bubbles, and that's normal as we cannot be a part or know the ins and outs of all the bubbles that do exist.

When I read here on MN about the amount and kind of emotional/physical/sexual abuse people go through I am asking myself, if this is really all true?????!!!!!!
That's a bubble I have never lived in myself and don't want to, so I guess my bubble is a different one from theirs.
The important thing is, I do believe that there are different worlds and horizons out there and as much as I cannot imagine some things, some experiences, I am at least trying to be open to listen and to see if I belong to the group of people who would need some attitude adjustment cause others have kindly asked me to or have pointed some of my attitudes and behaviours out as hurtful or disrespectful.
Does this make sense, or did I (hopefully not) go off on a tangent here?!Smile

holyfishnets · 15/09/2012 18:35

I know many mixed race kids and don't think anything about it.

SoleSource · 15/09/2012 19:07

The most racist people IME are Muslims.