To think that these T-shirts are disgusting?

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19560284

Whatever you may think of her, this is hardly in good taste is it? It just makes the unions look bad to have this sort of thing on sale at their conference. Can you imagine the CBI having T-shirts looking forward to the deaths of Tony Benn, or Shirley Williams, on sale at their conference?

Totally mis-read the OP as "makes the unicorns look bad".

The early introduction of the Poll Tax in Scotland was a fuck you. Nothing more, nothing less.

I'm sure her loved ones will be in pain.

Seems to be a waste of time being reasonable on this thread. A lot of negativity, hatred and vile spew from what I'm reading. Compassion is an admirable human trait. Ironic that so many posters are calling her nasty whilst being nasty. Keeping your own behaviour in check would be a start.

mt didn't give a stuff about the old lady in a house on her own. when they tested the poll tax in scotland, they found that making the electoral register and the poll tax register the same list allowed them to lose people from the voting register. if people didn't register for the poll tax, they couldn't vote. so the students and poor people (general lefties) ended up with no vote! also, it was assumed that the left councils in places like London would end up with huge bills while right wing councils would have low bills, how basildon laughed! however, everyone ended up with high bills which led to the riots and her deposition.

I dislike her I would by a hypocrite to lie to keep you in fluffy kittens and happy rainbows now wouldn't I?

can someone tell me who her loved ones are? her lovely son, her dullard daughter? who else?

MrsTerry "Seriously, someone brought up THATCHER. Emotive, much?"

I don't actually know what you mean here. My point was that people (including myself) have started discussing other things including specific policy points. The initial OP was about it being disgusting that T shirts celebrating someone's death have been made - people have (somewhat understandably) turned it into a debate with lots of posters not even responding to the OP's question at all.

But feel free to childishly pick me up on anything I say since we are on different ends of the political spectrum.

I'm sure she slept like a baby while people died so I'm not wasting a lot of tears on her. I will save my compassion for people who need and want it. I'm sure she would loathe me as much as I do her. She never replied to my letters, either so bollocks to it.

BTW Dominodonkey I responded in more than one post to the OP. Read back. However, this has moved on. We are now talking about why some people might want to wear this T-shirt.

Dislike away - very different to celebrating her death.

Patronising and malevolent - congratualtions.

I will take your poor taste t shirts and raise you a whole website keeping track of her status in a dead-or-alive fashion... is she dead yet

SO far... bitter, twisted, malevolent, half-brained, patronising. What names did I call you, I forget?

Thanks for the heads up.

Just ordered a few!

So, I'm going to sound ridiculously ignorant again, but I rally would appreciate an explanaition. I can't seem to find a straight answer.

This thing with the miners. I thought the mines were be aiming unprofitable and were unsafe and that's why MT wanted them closed. I was under the impression that they would have needed a present day bankers style bail out if they were to survive.

I'm well aware I could be wrong, but if this is the case, then surely it was common sense to let the mines go? I understand that would have led to huge unemployment, but what do the miners think should have been done?

Yes - but in the 70s I was a little girl. In the 80s I was a school girl with way more exciting things to pay attention to. By 1990 I was just starting A levels - I remember her leaving DS. But tbh - at that age, I was still at school, I was just living life as a school kid for the majority - not getting involved in politics.

Was responding to Gordy, MrsT - in response to being patronised.

I do think the t-shirts are a bit much, but can understand the hatred.

Think this is just right though.

DoMeDon. If it makes you feel better, I wouldn't vote Labour (after the Gulf War and ID cards fiasco) or LibDem either (bastard sell-outs). I'm left with the Greens

maybe a timed closure with some economic assistance should have been organised to help the miners. however, the tories were glad to throw them to the wolves, even the miners in nottinghamshire who supported her against the national miners union.
it was okay to dump working people who lived in a one industry town.
the strike was a combination of fighting to keep the mines open and having a showdown with the government.

Ah it's not about the voting - they're all inept

I am about the same age as you Hula but I can remember when the free milk got stopped when I was in primary, I can remember the awful state of my high school in late 80s and I can remember having to pay poll tax on my first YTS pay packet aged 16

Outraged the Miners was complicated. She and they made a war out of it, endangering the Miners and the Police in doing it. It isn't even in my top ten reasons to hate her though.

I think she was absolutely fantastic.
People who hate her are so predictable......

I wasn't patronising you - I have lots of compassion - I have to have in my job - supporting people suffering yet again under this utter bunch of tossers - like the last time

why should I have to feel compassion for people who used their power to oppress those worse off than them for their own gain

this woman supported abuse at home and abroad (Pinochet anyone)

I didn't morn Pol Pot or Chauchesku - why would I morn her - a woman without compassion

I don't agree with you that that makes me devoid of feeling or kindness

or unicorns and rainbows

Is she on her ladt legs then?

My uncle was a miner in a north east village.

Our whole family was ripped apart. Totally desroyed. Thanks largely to her.

Her speach ripping off the prayer of Saint Francis of Assisi makes my blood pressure explode. Her smug voice. Gah why did i read this thread. I will force her, her hair and her voice out of my head. I will i will.