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To think that these T-shirts are disgusting?

443 replies

GreenD · 11/09/2012 18:14

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19560284

Whatever you may think of her, this is hardly in good taste is it? It just makes the unions look bad to have this sort of thing on sale at their conference. Can you imagine the CBI having T-shirts looking forward to the deaths of Tony Benn, or Shirley Williams, on sale at their conference?

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Kayano · 11/09/2012 20:09

I love the idea of the MT death Geordie Jazz hands Grin

I think my dad is the only Geordie to actually like her. He says he was better off due to rates

Who cares if all his friends were unemployed and struggling to survive
Actually... He is exactly the kind of person who would like thatcher so never mind

I'm alright jack

orangeandlemons · 11/09/2012 20:10

"So well thought of"Hmm I don't know ANYONE who thought well of her. She was universally despised in the North and at university when I was there.

The loathing ofher has been unequalled ever since I think. If they dare to waste my taxes on a state funeral.....Angry

squeakytoy · 11/09/2012 20:13

She was not universally despised in the North at all.

BitOutOfPractice · 11/09/2012 20:14

I would support a state funeral for her...if it were held in Bradford or Barnsley or the Black Country....

RuleBritania she was NOT "so well thought of when she was Prime Minister". Not where I'm from anyway

Dominodonkey · 11/09/2012 20:16

orange Your social circle must be very limited then. Actually a lot of ordinary working class people loved her. She brought in right to buy which was very popular and made it possible for people to own their own homes. (I know it had some bad sides too)

outraged I think the reason a lot of people dislike her more than other PMs is that they feel (probably correctly) that the things she did were very deliberate. She did destroy mining communities etc. Many other PMs were incompetent/made lots of mistakes but that is easier to forgive.

MrsTerrysChocolateOrange · 11/09/2012 20:16

FWIW, in my case I hate her because I worked in homelessness, addictions, MH and poverty from the 80s onward. I saw the devastation. All the lives ruined. Kids coming to London because there were no prospects at home (generally up North) and sleeping on the streets, having no options. Nothing at home, Dad laid off, no work. They came to London and found that for them, there wasn't a lot of work there either.

The problem is not a PM making hard decisions, it is acting like the people who suffer because of it deserve to suffer. That was the impression she gave, that she hated the poor, gay people, Black people, foreigners and thought they got what they deserved. In the case of the young Argentinian conscripts, that was being killed. In the case of young Black men it was stop and search. In the case of young homeless people it was violence and pain.

LadyBeagleEyes · 11/09/2012 20:16

She was certainly despised in Scotland.
The Scottish Tory Party has never recovered from her.
Even today as the popular saying goes we have more pandas here than Tory M.P.s.

Kayano · 11/09/2012 20:18

Right to buy, yes, sell off all the houses for a fraction of their worth and fuck over your children's generation should they ever be in real need of a house.

Join the list people... Join the list and wait

gordyslovesheep · 11/09/2012 20:21

I grew up in Liverpool in the 1980's - enough said.

Joined the TGWU and Labour Party at 15 in 1985

I despise the woman and will open a nice bottle of bubbly when she goes

redlac · 11/09/2012 20:23

I hate the bitch because I was 16, on a YTS wages and had to pay the fucking poll tax A YEAR EARLIER because I lived in Scotland.

Sotland will celebrate with street parties when she pegs it.

creighton · 11/09/2012 20:24

yes GreenD, she was honest and open about her contempt for the majority of people in this country and didn't hestitate to show it. i agree with MrsTerry's post

Hulababy · 11/09/2012 20:25

Of course they are in bad taste.
Doesn't matter what anyone's politics are - wishing any one dead is not a nice thing. They are people, they have families.

I'm not a fan of hers but still wouldn't wish anyone like that actally dead because I am generally a nice person.

GreenD · 11/09/2012 20:25

If she was honest and open about her contempt for the majority of people in this country, how come she won 3 general elections?

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MrsTerrysChocolateOrange · 11/09/2012 20:26

Because people are easily bribed with money, easily misled and don't like change.

creighton · 11/09/2012 20:27

the first past the post system allows parties to win elections with a minority of votes.

DoMeDon · 11/09/2012 20:27

YANBU they are disgusting. I love that quote "Hate is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die" . It's fucked up to celebrate another persons pain.

creighton · 11/09/2012 20:28

one little thing that she said was that if you travel by bus past the age of 30 you are a loser.

Dominodonkey · 11/09/2012 20:29

The poll tax was an excellent concept, terribly handled and with far too many anomalies. Of course you shouldn't have had to pay it redlac just like my SAHM shouldn't have had to pay a full amount either. But the basic concept that 3 stockbrokers sharing a house should pay more for services than the one lady living next door did make sense.

Sorry the thread has rather been hijacked by slightly irrelevant debate. I don't think it is appropriate for any t shirt celebrating a death to be worn. Whoever the person may be.

gordyslovesheep · 11/09/2012 20:29

she wont be in pain - she will be dead - mind you I bet hell is a bit ouchy

Lilylightfoot · 11/09/2012 20:29

I think they have a state funeral for her, there will be riots on the the streets.

creighton · 11/09/2012 20:30

I agree that the tee shirts are in poor taste but i think she celebrated the pain she inflicted on the population in general so there is no need to waste one minute of sympathy on the nasty old woman.

Hulababy · 11/09/2012 20:30

It is also an in thing to hate her.
Many people who say they hate her where not even old enough to have lived through any of it anyway. Some not even born.

I wasn't old enough. I was born int he early 70s. Many of my family were miners. I lived in a proper working class area, in a council house on a not great stee
ate, etc. But still I wans't really old enough to know what was going on.

MrsTerrysChocolateOrange · 11/09/2012 20:30

the thread has rather been hijacked by slightly irrelevant debate Seriously, someone brought up THATCHER. Emotive, much?

redlac · 11/09/2012 20:31

I didn't mind paying it (In Fact I think it is a fairer system than council tax), it was the fact that she experimented with a whole country to piss us all off even more.

MrsTerrysChocolateOrange · 11/09/2012 20:33

If you were born in the early 70s, Hulababy you would remember something. She was in years from 1979. So, what were you doing in 1990?