To think that these T-shirts are disgusting?

[GreenD]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19560284

Whatever you may think of her, this is hardly in good taste is it? It just makes the unions look bad to have this sort of thing on sale at their conference. Can you imagine the CBI having T-shirts looking forward to the deaths of Tony Benn, or Shirley Williams, on sale at their conference?

I genuinely think there will be an outbreak of civil unrest when Thatcher carks it

Guy Fawkes' death was nearly 500 years ago. You'd think we'd have moved on a bit since then.

I've no objection to people celebrating the life of Margaret Thatcher after she dies. But dancing on her grave is something different. Even those who didn't care for her policies have to have some grudging respect for her I'd have thought. She was honest and said exactly what she was going to do, and then did it. A far cry from today's politicians!

During the riots of the eighties her bastard cabinet were willing to let Liverpool just fall to its knees. They didn't think the anger was worth bothering about. The whole lot of them were a shower of shit bags.

No, why don't people understand this? No, no grudging respect. People died because of her. I won't dance on her grave but I hate her, I hated her then and it isn't politics when people target people who can't fight back.

I think it's hilarious that the Left always show how bitter and twisted they are on threads like this. I am not saying that Thatcher was perfect and I know she caused a great deal of pain to many families in parts of the country (some of which was unfortunately necessary to get the country working again after Wilson, Callaghan and Heath had stuffed it up) but wishing people dead and saying you will celebrate? And they say the Tories are the 'nasty party'

Yes she did say 'there is no such thing as society' - as part of a much longer sentence. The full thing is perfectly logical to anyone with half a brain...I do realise this doesn't apply to many lefties though so you are excused...

GreenD, bonfire night has a history of hundreds of years of anti-Catholic violence. And some areas of the UK haven't moved on from sectarian violence.

But as you seem pretty hazy on what went on in the 1980s, why I would expect you to know about anything happening in the UK in general at any time is a mystery.

Greend I understand your sentiment but she is bot worth shedding a tear over.

OP YANBU - It is completely unnecessary, just as it would be if the T shirt referred to Blair, Brown or Bush.

Dominodonkey plenty of us have said that we wouldn't celebrate her death. Calling us all, "bitter and twisted" and with the crack about Lefties not having half a brain. I think you just made your own point, about yourself.

Nope, no respect at all, not even grudging I'm afraid.
The reason that I don't like the T shirts is because if a right wing organisation designed a T Shirt of any of those from the left, say Gordon Brown like that, I wouldn't like it either.
I still loathe the old cow, though and will not mourn her passing.
Though I will stay away from every media outlet as I imagine there's going to be wall to wall coverage for bloody days.

I'll have a good drink the days he goes

And no doubt there will be parties in the NE

Disclaimer (I live next to swan hunters)

Ladybeagleeyes I agree your point you can hate someone and still respect their humanity and show a level of dignity iyswim.

Blair did far far more immediate damage to my family, increasing racial hatred that will affect my children for years to come, destroying a member of my family in a pointless illegal war, I hate him I fucking hate him and I still won't celebrate his death, I won't lower myself.

Have just tried to do some basic googleing and reading on what she did that was so bad.

I still feel like I'm missing something.

"Those who didn't care for her policies have to have some grudging respect for her"

Er, no. No I don't.

I agree with GreenD. Margaret Thatcher was a great prime minister who put the 'Great' back into Britain. Yes, there are some things we don't like now eg privatisation but that was not her fault. That was EU's fault, telling us that we were not allowed to have just one supplier for gas etc. And how many of us bought shares in British Telecommunications (formerly GPO) or Thames Water. It's the EU's fault that we are where we are now.

She was so well thought of when she was Prime Minister that there was talk of a state funeral for when the time came.

Put the 'great' back into great Britain?

Bwahahahahaha! Whatever

Here are some things for you Outraged. I haven't fact-checked them. Homelessness I do know was increased under her.

I was completely unaffected by her decisions, admired some of her politics and respected her as a women.

But I still witnessed the utter devastation she caused millions of families.
I completely understand why there would be a market for those T-shirts.

Being old, frail and infirm or even dead doesn't make you a nice person or erase your crimes.

Woman not women obviously.

Why the fuck should she have a State Funeral?
She was just another Prime Minister, and a hugely unpopular one.
The last PM that had that accolade was Churchill, and for good reason.
If that happened I'd be down there with my banners to demonstrate I'm afraid.

I grew up in the North in the 80's. I also saw the mess that the labour party had created in the early 70's which needed clearing up.

There has been a lot worse in this country than Thatcher.

I've been inspired to invent Thatcher Death Geordie Jazz Hands.

I really don't like to ask LineRunner...

Thank you MrsTerrys. I have read and understood, but I still don't really see how she is worse than any other prime minister.

The article you linked to is one mans spin on it, and it doesn't seem to mention the miners, which I thought was the overriding thing.

I can see she did some bad, but I can also see that she did some good. When you run a very diverse country you are never going to do anything that keeps everyone happy, there will always be people that disagree with your descisons. That goes for every PM. Why is she hated so much more than the others?