Aibu to want to share my anger against Frankie Boyle

[JeuxDEnfants]

For his disablist comments? I would like to anyone who shares my anger to post. His a ridiculous person and a crap comedian. I'm sure I must have missed a thread about him already... But can't find one...

[JeuxDEnfants]

Fair enough.

[MmeLindor]

Jings. This thread is going well.

MW
My issue with FB is is that he makes jokes about disabled, perhaps as you say to include them, perhaps and an experiment.

Sadly many of those who laugh, RT and pass on his jokes don't get the subtle satire.

And the joke about Katie Price's son was beyond the pale. No matter what you think about KP, her son does not seek the limelight, nor did her other kids.

Joking about him is vile.

[seeker]

"My issue with FB is is that he makes jokes about disabled, perhaps as you say to include them, perhaps and an experiment."

Or perhaps because he's an unpleasant git? I have never seen anywhere him talking about his commitment to inclusivity, or to satire or to ground breaking experimental humour.

The only people who say that sort of thing about him are either people who love cruel, anti minority humour and are seeking to justify themselves, or people who see themselves as edgy or zeitgiesty, and who are so shit scared of being accused of being "po faced" that they daren't stand up and say "actually, no. This isn't cutting edge. This is the Bernard Manning or Chubby Brown de nos hours and up with it I will not put"

[porcamiseria]

Its odd as if you read this bio he actually comes across as OK

but his crime for me was the Harvey comments, really cruel

I actually did not think the Saudo/para comments were that bad

but the Harvey ones made me wince

[WhatYouLookingAt]

I'm not a fan, but I find something more than a little disturbing about those who want to ban all jokes that might upset someone, preaching that all comedians should be inoffensive and sweet like Peter Kay.
S'all a bit sinister. Comedy pushes boundaries, it shouldn't be censored by public opinion, whether or not we like the content.

[threeOrangesocksmorgan]

ffs this is not about inclusion.
how can ripping the piss out of disabled people be inclusion.
all it leads to is more exclusion

[seeker]

"I'm not a fan, but I find something more than a little disturbing about those who want to ban all jokes that might upset someone, preaching that all comedians should be inoffensive and sweet like Peter Kay."

That would be disturbing. Fortunately it's not a point of view anyone on this thread has expressed.

[WhatYouLookingAt]

it is, about half way down, someone said almost exactly that.

[WhatYouLookingAt]

Can't find it now, but its there. Anyway, I'm more uncomfortable with the idea that he shouldn't be allowed make the jokes than I am with the jokes, to be honest.

[seeker]

Must have missed it. It's certainly not the general view of the posters on the thread.

[seeker]

So, it is OK to make jokes about anything? Racist jokes OK?

[Pagwatch]

Again.

Where are the calls to ban him?

The vast majority on here are just articulating how unpleasant they find him yet people reply saying 'you are so ridiculous trying to ban him'
Why the leap?

There are threads and threads talking about what an utter tosser Peter Andre is but I think they rarely get 'oh you are so easily offended, you can't ban him - he is just pushing the boundaries of orange tinted skin'

It is such a ridiculous leap and so obviously a device to turn anyone who thinks he is just a piece of shite into a fun stopping book burner.

I don't wanto ban him.i just want to post what an utter cunt he is.

[LottieJenkins]

I LOATHE FB!!! Whenever i am out and i see his books on display I either cover them up or turn them over. Last time i turned them over his face was on the back too. So i got a book off another pile and covered him up!!! If anyone was watching on CCTV they must have wondered what the heck i was doing!

[Lolwhut]

Ok, let's be clear.

FB stood up in front of an audience told the 'joke' about Havey Price so that he and the audience could have a good laugh at the image he had created of what he descibed as an 'unwanted' disabled child attacking his mother. A child who has no way of standing up for himself.


metallywell and others who support FB do you or do you not think this is an acceptable joke. Yes or no?


I still think that the biggest villain here is Channel Four for airing it. Absolutely disgusting of them and I can't believe they didn't apologise. I was actually watching when it was first aired. I knew FB wasn't my favourite comedian and would make jokes I din't particularly like but I never expected something like the comments he made about Harvey Price to be aired.

I hope Harvey is not aware of this incident but I doubt that his brother and sister will be able to be shielded from it for ever more. How can an adult put children in that situation, especially, one that is a Father himself.

[Lolwhut]

I don't think he should be banned but i don't want to spend one penny of my licence fee on him.

[ScrambledSmegs]

Ban him? Is anyone really calling for him to be banned?

He's done a fine job of de-mainstreaming made up word himself anyway. Mock the Week is vastly improved by his absence.

Some friends went to see his show a while ago, not realising how much of his material is censored on tv, for good reason. They hated it. Male friend, not known for sensitivity on behalf of people with disabities etc was actually moved to walk out. He said it wasn't so much the jokes, although they were vile, it was the audience killing themselves laughing that made him so .

FB brings out the worst in people. Just because you can 'push the boundaries' doesn't mean you should. But then look at all the rape jokes that abound on the comedy circuit these days, there's always some idiot happy to push the fucking boundaries

[seeker]

Classic straw man technique.

"this is a deeply offensive joke which shouldn't have been made"

"oh, all you PC brigade people want to ban things all the time"

[threeOrangesocksmorgan]

WhatYouLookingAt Mon 10-Sep-12 08:40:22
Can't find it now, but its there. Anyway, I'm more uncomfortable with the idea that he shouldn't be allowed make the jokes than I am with the jokes, to be honest.

wow do really people really think like this? how odd.

[modifiedmum]

I'd like to know peoples views on him if it was their looks he was critisizing or their children he was taking the piss out of.

[WhatYouLookingAt]

Is it odd to be against censorship? I don't think so. I do find him offensive and I don't find him funny, however would not want to see him banned or prosecuted for his jokes.
I think its entirely the norm to think like that, and the vast majority of people feel the same.

[TheOriginalSteamingNit]

But nobody is saying that - they're saying 'I don't like Frankie Boyle'. How exactly would you ban a person, anyway?

[WhatYouLookingAt]

and since I'm usually accused of being in the PC brigade, I find that funny. What could be more PC than arguing that everyone has the right to free speech (not that they do, but thats a different argument).
I was responding to the specific few that were arguing that it "shouldn't be allowed", not those who were just calling him a cunt (since you're all free to do that, why respond, since I happen to agree?). What does not allowing it mean if not censorship?

[WhatYouLookingAt]

not ban a person, ban the jokes. Obviously.

[Pagwatch]

I am still struggling to see where people have called for banning.

I am not sure I have even seen 'shouldn't be allowed' comments.
But even if there were why is that a call for banning? Why is it not that societal pressure should mean people like him don't get airspace?

The anti-censorship thing is just a massive red herring on a thread where people are just expressing their irritation, dislike and frustration.
It is a straw man thing. And I fricking hate that phrase.

[Pagwatch]

If we can ban people can I chose some?