Aibu to want to share my anger against Frankie Boyle

[JeuxDEnfants]

For his disablist comments? I would like to anyone who shares my anger to post. His a ridiculous person and a crap comedian. I'm sure I must have missed a thread about him already... But can't find one...

[MarysBeard]

He's an alcoholic & self destructive. Sometimes I found him fantastically funny on MTW, even my mum in her 70s did. Sometmes not. I actually laughed at the first Rebecca Adlington joke on MTW, as a "shooting a sacred cow" remark rather than a personal thing about her, but since then he has been rather personal and offensive about her and several others, just mean and not funny.

But then there are plenty of others who, ok are not as offensive but who are professional arseholes/annoying fuckwits with inexplicably incredible careers (to me). Chris Moyles, Jonathan Ross, Piers Morgan, Jeremy Clarkson to name but a few.

[JeuxDEnfants]

:)

[AKissIsNotAContract]

www.newsbiscuit.com/2012/09/11/let-me-commit-career-suicide-with-dignity-pleads-frankie-boyle/ this made me laugh

[Pagwatch]

And glad we cleared it up

[WhatYouLookingAt]

Ok, my mistake, I thought you had aimed a couple of posts at me. Glad to be wrong.

[Pagwatch]

I am not trying to be fair. I am posting my opinion.

You seem to be reacting to everything I post as if I am referencing your comments when I am not.

The 'you lot can't ban him/professionally offended/killjoy thing is on here all the time.

And there is no irony in what I posted. And no 'societal pressure' is not the same as banning. That makes no sense.
There is no ban on using 'paki' but most people don't use it because society will generally view them as a massive twat.

[WhatYouLookingAt]

I don't think you're being fair there. I neither said nor implied that anyone was a killjoy (indeed as I agreed on the he's a cunt part, what "joy" could I accuse anyone of killing?)
I merely gave my opinion based on what I saw in what I read. I think its more diverting of you to seize on my post and make a big deal of it, but thats your prerogative.


I'm surprised you don't see the irony in repeatedly saying nobody wants to ban or censor yet your next line is "Why is it not that societal pressure should mean people like him don't get airspace?".
Surely if he is offensive to the majority then it will naturally fade, what societal pressure is necessary? And what is the difference between pressure to remove his airspace and censoring? It's the same ballpark at least.

[PicklesThePottyMouthedParrot]

No certainly no banning. He seems to be killing his career quite nicely all on his very own.

Banning people would be pretty brilliant though. I'd like to ban Richard madeley please.

[Pagwatch]

No

It is just diverting to post 'he is a cunt' and have 'but you killjoys just want to ban stuff' by way of response.

I am going to try and get Peter Andre banned now though.

[WhatYouLookingAt]

Well, ok, if my comments are irrelevant to the discussion, ignore them. Everyone interprets differently, and thats how I interpreted some. I don't see it as a straw man at all since it was an honest and personal evaluation as opposed to attempt to distract or distort.
Not a problem if you see it differently, is it?

[Pagwatch]

If we can ban people can I chose some?

[Pagwatch]

I am still struggling to see where people have called for banning.

I am not sure I have even seen 'shouldn't be allowed' comments.
But even if there were why is that a call for banning? Why is it not that societal pressure should mean people like him don't get airspace?

The anti-censorship thing is just a massive red herring on a thread where people are just expressing their irritation, dislike and frustration.
It is a straw man thing. And I fricking hate that phrase.

[WhatYouLookingAt]

not ban a person, ban the jokes. Obviously.

[WhatYouLookingAt]

and since I'm usually accused of being in the PC brigade, I find that funny. What could be more PC than arguing that everyone has the right to free speech (not that they do, but thats a different argument).
I was responding to the specific few that were arguing that it "shouldn't be allowed", not those who were just calling him a cunt (since you're all free to do that, why respond, since I happen to agree?). What does not allowing it mean if not censorship?

[TheOriginalSteamingNit]

But nobody is saying that - they're saying 'I don't like Frankie Boyle'. How exactly would you ban a person, anyway?

[WhatYouLookingAt]

Is it odd to be against censorship? I don't think so. I do find him offensive and I don't find him funny, however would not want to see him banned or prosecuted for his jokes.
I think its entirely the norm to think like that, and the vast majority of people feel the same.

[modifiedmum]

I'd like to know peoples views on him if it was their looks he was critisizing or their children he was taking the piss out of.

[threeOrangesocksmorgan]

WhatYouLookingAt Mon 10-Sep-12 08:40:22
Can't find it now, but its there. Anyway, I'm more uncomfortable with the idea that he shouldn't be allowed make the jokes than I am with the jokes, to be honest.

wow do really people really think like this? how odd.

[seeker]

Classic straw man technique.

"this is a deeply offensive joke which shouldn't have been made"

"oh, all you PC brigade people want to ban things all the time"

[ScrambledSmegs]

Ban him? Is anyone really calling for him to be banned?

He's done a fine job of de-mainstreaming made up word himself anyway. Mock the Week is vastly improved by his absence.

Some friends went to see his show a while ago, not realising how much of his material is censored on tv, for good reason. They hated it. Male friend, not known for sensitivity on behalf of people with disabities etc was actually moved to walk out. He said it wasn't so much the jokes, although they were vile, it was the audience killing themselves laughing that made him so .

FB brings out the worst in people. Just because you can 'push the boundaries' doesn't mean you should. But then look at all the rape jokes that abound on the comedy circuit these days, there's always some idiot happy to push the fucking boundaries

[Lolwhut]

I don't think he should be banned but i don't want to spend one penny of my licence fee on him.

[Lolwhut]

Ok, let's be clear.

FB stood up in front of an audience told the 'joke' about Havey Price so that he and the audience could have a good laugh at the image he had created of what he descibed as an 'unwanted' disabled child attacking his mother. A child who has no way of standing up for himself.


metallywell and others who support FB do you or do you not think this is an acceptable joke. Yes or no?


I still think that the biggest villain here is Channel Four for airing it. Absolutely disgusting of them and I can't believe they didn't apologise. I was actually watching when it was first aired. I knew FB wasn't my favourite comedian and would make jokes I din't particularly like but I never expected something like the comments he made about Harvey Price to be aired.

I hope Harvey is not aware of this incident but I doubt that his brother and sister will be able to be shielded from it for ever more. How can an adult put children in that situation, especially, one that is a Father himself.

[LottieJenkins]

I LOATHE FB!!! Whenever i am out and i see his books on display I either cover them up or turn them over. Last time i turned them over his face was on the back too. So i got a book off another pile and covered him up!!! If anyone was watching on CCTV they must have wondered what the heck i was doing!

[Pagwatch]

Again.

Where are the calls to ban him?

The vast majority on here are just articulating how unpleasant they find him yet people reply saying 'you are so ridiculous trying to ban him'
Why the leap?

There are threads and threads talking about what an utter tosser Peter Andre is but I think they rarely get 'oh you are so easily offended, you can't ban him - he is just pushing the boundaries of orange tinted skin'

It is such a ridiculous leap and so obviously a device to turn anyone who thinks he is just a piece of shite into a fun stopping book burner.

I don't wanto ban him.i just want to post what an utter cunt he is.

[seeker]

So, it is OK to make jokes about anything? Racist jokes OK?