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AIBU to refuse to attend any family function that my sister-in-law attends? Point blank.

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chevytruck · 29/08/2012 22:42

This might be long.

Husband and his (only sibling) sister are chalk and cheese.
Always just 'tolerated' each other.
When I first met her I took an instant dislike but tolerated her politely and non-provocatively.
Then out of the blue (after being with her brother for approximately six years) we became friends. Not BFF's, don't get me wrong. But we were both planning weddings so spent time together doing wedding stuff, then exercise classes, then just general socialising.
This was great for about 2 years. I allowed myself to let my guard down and 'let her in'.
I married her brother almost a year before her wedding and things were still great.
Then at around her hen do/wedding she froze me out.
Suddenly and with absolutely no explanation. I was nine weeks pregnant at her wedding but no-one knew and she already had one child so jealousy isn't an answer in this situation I don't think.
I've always been timid (a history of 'friends' who bully at school) and so just kept my head down.
It spiralled. She refused to talk to me, look at me, sit in the same room as me at family events, segregated me on her hen-do and indoctrinated all her friends into her way of thinking. No big loss.
This continued until towards the end of my pregnancy when she was so foul at a family do that it reduced her mum to tears.
My husband approached her and her 'answer' was that she was very early stages of pregnancy and so had been keeping her head down. Everyone accepted that explanation. But ignored the fact she'd been treating me like that for over a year and she was weeks into her pregnancy. So once again it got dropped. I then removed her as a friend on Facebook as some of the digs at me were from her status updates.
So, for nearly four years I have been polite, taken the digs, been ignored, and 'not' noticed the rolling eyes and disdain until finally it all came to a head at her sons christening in Sunday.
It was meant to be a small family christening after which we were going out for a meal. Just me and DH, MIL, FIL, SIL, BIL and our five kids.
The day before I had a nasty fall down the stairs and after a trip to A&E ascertained nothing broken, but in considerable amount of pain went along as it would mean a lot to DH family, so he said.
So, I sit in the church. Immobile. And slowly it dawns on me that plans are being made for all SILs friends and kids to meet after the ceremony at a nearby pub. But all in hushed whispers. At least five friends I heard saying words to this effect.
In the car park after the service, she announces she's going home TO TIDY(?) on a sunny day, after her sons christening when all her friends are at the pub. At which point we're bundled into the car with one of her sons and grandparents make the decision to go ahead with said family meal and we drive on to a different restaurant to where everyone else was meeting.
Leaving her celebrating with everyone somewhere else, having left us (myself and husband) feeling snubbed.
I refuse to go and eat after reaching my limit of passive aggressive bullying.
Husband tells in-laws why rather than a white lie and then arguments with his patents ensue about me spoiling the day for the kids, and getting the wrong end of the stick. ''She's gone home to tidy", I keep bring told... Perlease.
So we have a quick drink, no lunch, allow the kids to enjoy each others company while we sit in silence and then finally go.
Husband and I row be ause I can't he back saying exactly what I feel about his sister. So we go to my mums for her to listen/mediate. Don't get any resolutions agreed but air grievances anyway.
My answer is to remove myself from anything she's involved in.
For good. Or until something changes drastically.

Husband and I are at utter end of fighting tether having gone round in circles for four days.
He feels I should be the bigger person and that I'm hurting him by not attending family stuff. "We're a team, who cares what she says/does?". A fact I'm not disagreeing with. But he's asking me to keep bending over and taking it up the a**e.
I removed myself from people I went to school with like her and I'm stronger for it. DH wants me to approach her and suggest bygones be bygones. BUT WHY SHOULD I? I've done nothing wrong and she's treated me appallingly for four years I just don't want to see her again. She's intimidating.
So. Very long story short...
Should I 'grin and bear it' and feel the bigger person, because my husband isn't having to attend things on his own (but with kids) or stick to my guns? And not put myself in the position of feeling intimidated by doing the only thing I can. Remove myself.
Or confront her by text maybe? Ask what I've done to offend her so badly. I don't want to but again DH thinks its a solution. One he's unwilling to try as it might jeopardise more relationships.
Sorry it's so long but I'm just exhausted with trying to talk ourselves into a solution and going round in circles so thought some fresh eyes might help.
Happy reading.

OP posts:
londonone · 30/08/2012 16:41

No couthy parents will generally get upset when someone insults their child regardless of whether it is true or not.

CouthyMow · 30/08/2012 16:41

Londonone - do you GENUINELY not see how that sort of behaviour can be hurtful to the OP?! Confused

CouthyMow · 30/08/2012 16:42

It's an insult if it's not true. It's the truth if it's true.

You can't insult someone by being truthful. Confused again.

chevytruck · 30/08/2012 16:42

so foul involved refusing to eat takeaway at table with all of us and sitting in another room. No answers as to why, not talking to me, and generally looks of death and misery until her mother burst into tears.

Sound foul enough for you?

OP posts:
CouthyMow · 30/08/2012 16:44

Lots of people call me stubborn. They aren't insulting me, they are telling the truth. I CAN be stubborn often. Not insulting to me, I know it is one of the flaws in my character, and I work hard to try to change that, but sometimes fail.

chevytruck · 30/08/2012 16:45

parents will generally get upset when someone insults their child regardless of whether it is true or not. ONCE!

But ignore it from their own child for years.

When I'm in the park and my child says "you're horrid", or "you smell", or "you can't play with us" vindictively. I see it. I recognise it. I respond.

OP posts:
londonone · 30/08/2012 16:45

No I don't think it's a nice way to act but it's simply very childish and I don't understand why you would let her have all this power over you. She doesn't need a reason she s not obliged to like you as you said yourself you took an instant dislike to her and had nothing to do with her for years that's also fine. What sort of thing did she tell her friends you had done?

CouthyMow · 30/08/2012 16:46

I appreciate honesty, and accept the flaws in my character as well as the better parts of my character. I don't get insulted when people point out the flaws in my character, as I am grown up enough to know that I have them.

londonone · 30/08/2012 16:46

Truth can be subjective couthy

chevytruck · 30/08/2012 16:47

...and I wasn't insulting their child in calling her a bully. I was telling the truth.
The world is a subjective place and we're all human.

She bullies me; ergo she is a bully. And I called her on it.

OP posts:
chevytruck · 30/08/2012 16:48

Truth can be subjective. We agree.

But in their heart of hearts PIL would agree that SIL bully them TOO.
Just because its not SAID OUTLOUD doesn't make it true.

My Dad was a raving alcoholic for three years. No-one in the family would acknowledge - does that mean it wasn't true and I imagined the two litres of vodka being drunk a day??

OP posts:
londonone · 30/08/2012 16:49

So she refused to eat a takeaway with you all. Her loss why on earth didn't you all say 'fair enough, suit yourself' and get on with having a nice evening. You give her too much power she is a stroppy child, ignore as you would if your own child was having a strop/tantrum.

londonone · 30/08/2012 16:51

She sound faintly ludicrous, I would laugh at her to be honest.

CouthyMow · 30/08/2012 16:52

Exactly. I wouldn't tolerate this sort of behaviour from my own DC's towards anyone else, why would I be OK with a grown adult acting that way towards me?

There is a girl in my DD's year that everyone ignores and ostracises for something her FATHER did. My DD refuses to ignore her and indulge in the petty playground shite because it is nothing to do with the girl what her father did. She at 14yo feels the behaviour of the other people is hurtful towards this girl, and childish, and unacceptable, and due to her challenges, this girl has regained her friendship group.

If my 14yo with Autism can see that this is unacceptable behaviour, then I see no need to ignore hurtful behaviour like this in a grown up.

I am glad that my DC don't act like this.

londonone · 30/08/2012 16:52

Sorry when I said truth was subjective I wasn't suggesting you weren't telling the truth

CouthyMow · 30/08/2012 16:54

So it is OK for the SIL to insult the OP for 4 years, but not OK for the OP to insult the SIL once?!

Calling a bully a bully is not subjective, it is the truth. Just as calling an alcoholic an alcoholic is the truth. Been there with my mother.

londonone · 30/08/2012 16:54

But couthy the Op can't tell off/ deal with the SIL as if the SIL is the Ops child she can only control her own behaviour.

londonone · 30/08/2012 16:55

No the op can nsult the SIL as much as she wants but it's not going to achieve anything, that was my point. Bullying is very much subjective IMO

CouthyMow · 30/08/2012 16:56

EXACTLY, Londonone! The OP is taking control of her own behaviour by removing herself from situations where she may be provoked to call the SIL on her shitty behaviour, by removing the opportunity for the SIL to continue to bully her!

Sparkletastic · 30/08/2012 16:58

Agree that you seem to be giving her an enormous amount of power by casting yourself as her victim. This is probably taking you back all too painfully to your experience of being bullied at school. The assertive thing would be to continue to see her as infrequently as you do now but respond to any PA behaviour on her part with a calm and direct question or statement.

"Are you upset about something?"
"Did you mean to be so rude to me?"
"Is there a reason why you are sitting in a separate room?"

OR - ignore her and let her get on with it whilst making polite and cheery conversation with the rest of the family making her the petulant unreasonable and childish person NOT you...

Nanny0gg · 30/08/2012 16:58

...and I wasn't insulting their child in calling her a bully. I was telling the truth. The world is a subjective place and we're all human. She bullies me; ergo she is a bully. And I called her on it.
Call her on it by all means. And however right you are it still hurt her mum. Which is an additional hurt on top of what her own daughter does directly. Not your intention, surely?

You somehow need to get your DH on board to back you up, but as you don't have to see her very often then avoid when you're in that situation.
Just ignore. You all give her too much power.

CouthyMow · 30/08/2012 16:58

So, Londonone, if your DC was being bullied at school, by one of their peers (the SIL), and telling the teachers (the PIL) did nothing, would you tell your DC's to continue to put up with their bullying behaviour? Or would you tell them to verbally stand up to the bully?

ethelb · 30/08/2012 16:59

@couthy I agree with a lot of what you are saying and calling her a bully is a bit subjective. It is also a label and its not a great idea to label someone to their mother!

it makes OP seem like she is trying to make herself out to be a 'victim' which even if she is, makes her problems with SIL more likely to be dismissed.

londonone · 30/08/2012 16:59

Yes I agree but all I am saying is that that is giving the SIL too much power and IMO it would be preferable if the op can find a way of dealing tith the SIL without feeling that she (the op) and her family have to absent themselves.

CockyPants · 30/08/2012 17:00

Sorry to hear faaaaaamily ishoos are making you feel unhappy.
I think your SiL needs to grow the fuck up. Obviously she has inflated ego issues and needs to be the centre of attention.
By refusing to go to faaaamily events you are giving her more power and feeding her ego.
Hard though it is you need to ignore her personality problems. Do not engage. Be polite. Do not give her ammunition. This will really piss her off far more than you attending family events! And you will not be the bad person so will earn loads of brownie points!
Good luck!