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AIBU to refuse to attend any family function that my sister-in-law attends? Point blank.

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chevytruck · 29/08/2012 22:42

This might be long.

Husband and his (only sibling) sister are chalk and cheese.
Always just 'tolerated' each other.
When I first met her I took an instant dislike but tolerated her politely and non-provocatively.
Then out of the blue (after being with her brother for approximately six years) we became friends. Not BFF's, don't get me wrong. But we were both planning weddings so spent time together doing wedding stuff, then exercise classes, then just general socialising.
This was great for about 2 years. I allowed myself to let my guard down and 'let her in'.
I married her brother almost a year before her wedding and things were still great.
Then at around her hen do/wedding she froze me out.
Suddenly and with absolutely no explanation. I was nine weeks pregnant at her wedding but no-one knew and she already had one child so jealousy isn't an answer in this situation I don't think.
I've always been timid (a history of 'friends' who bully at school) and so just kept my head down.
It spiralled. She refused to talk to me, look at me, sit in the same room as me at family events, segregated me on her hen-do and indoctrinated all her friends into her way of thinking. No big loss.
This continued until towards the end of my pregnancy when she was so foul at a family do that it reduced her mum to tears.
My husband approached her and her 'answer' was that she was very early stages of pregnancy and so had been keeping her head down. Everyone accepted that explanation. But ignored the fact she'd been treating me like that for over a year and she was weeks into her pregnancy. So once again it got dropped. I then removed her as a friend on Facebook as some of the digs at me were from her status updates.
So, for nearly four years I have been polite, taken the digs, been ignored, and 'not' noticed the rolling eyes and disdain until finally it all came to a head at her sons christening in Sunday.
It was meant to be a small family christening after which we were going out for a meal. Just me and DH, MIL, FIL, SIL, BIL and our five kids.
The day before I had a nasty fall down the stairs and after a trip to A&E ascertained nothing broken, but in considerable amount of pain went along as it would mean a lot to DH family, so he said.
So, I sit in the church. Immobile. And slowly it dawns on me that plans are being made for all SILs friends and kids to meet after the ceremony at a nearby pub. But all in hushed whispers. At least five friends I heard saying words to this effect.
In the car park after the service, she announces she's going home TO TIDY(?) on a sunny day, after her sons christening when all her friends are at the pub. At which point we're bundled into the car with one of her sons and grandparents make the decision to go ahead with said family meal and we drive on to a different restaurant to where everyone else was meeting.
Leaving her celebrating with everyone somewhere else, having left us (myself and husband) feeling snubbed.
I refuse to go and eat after reaching my limit of passive aggressive bullying.
Husband tells in-laws why rather than a white lie and then arguments with his patents ensue about me spoiling the day for the kids, and getting the wrong end of the stick. ''She's gone home to tidy", I keep bring told... Perlease.
So we have a quick drink, no lunch, allow the kids to enjoy each others company while we sit in silence and then finally go.
Husband and I row be ause I can't he back saying exactly what I feel about his sister. So we go to my mums for her to listen/mediate. Don't get any resolutions agreed but air grievances anyway.
My answer is to remove myself from anything she's involved in.
For good. Or until something changes drastically.

Husband and I are at utter end of fighting tether having gone round in circles for four days.
He feels I should be the bigger person and that I'm hurting him by not attending family stuff. "We're a team, who cares what she says/does?". A fact I'm not disagreeing with. But he's asking me to keep bending over and taking it up the a**e.
I removed myself from people I went to school with like her and I'm stronger for it. DH wants me to approach her and suggest bygones be bygones. BUT WHY SHOULD I? I've done nothing wrong and she's treated me appallingly for four years I just don't want to see her again. She's intimidating.
So. Very long story short...
Should I 'grin and bear it' and feel the bigger person, because my husband isn't having to attend things on his own (but with kids) or stick to my guns? And not put myself in the position of feeling intimidated by doing the only thing I can. Remove myself.
Or confront her by text maybe? Ask what I've done to offend her so badly. I don't want to but again DH thinks its a solution. One he's unwilling to try as it might jeopardise more relationships.
Sorry it's so long but I'm just exhausted with trying to talk ourselves into a solution and going round in circles so thought some fresh eyes might help.
Happy reading.

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NameGames · 30/08/2012 09:09

I think YABU. I might be focusing a bit too much on the Christening, but I think you are taking it all a bit personally and not providing much support to your DH. This Christening had her going off for a meal with her friends and leaving her mother, father and brother doing a family celebration without the guest of honour. That was pretty nasty of her to them, why you feel so offended about it I don't really undertand. Your DH and PILs decided to go along with the fiction of her "going home to tidy" in order to make the best they could of the situation, it may not be how you'd choose to handle it, but it's your DH's family so why can't you just go along with it? I think kicking up a fuss then, when your DH was probably trying to come to terms with being ditched by his sister was a bit unkind of you.

From what you describe, other than the one day when she was pregnant, her behaviour has been limited to blanking you. THis is easy to deal with without cutting out all family gatherings. Just ignore her as much as you can and be civil but distant when you do need to talk to her. You only know her because of DH, why take it personally?

albertswearengen · 30/08/2012 09:13

You SIL and mine could be twins.
It is probably a jealously thing as soon as you were pregnant she wasn't the only one giving her parents grandchildren and you had a more established place in the family. My SIL did not deal well with that at all.
We are also in the situation of no matter how SIL and BIL behave towards us and her parents - PIL's always excuse them- always. I think they are a bit scared it will all kick off if they don't.

After a particularly nasty episode this spring where they basically treated us so badly and we sucked it up for harmony's sake, we have decided to distance ourselves completely. We are avoiding seeing them (easier because they don't live close), we won't do big family events, I have blocked her on fb, and we have been straight with the PIL's why. DH calmly told his parents without slagging SIL why her behaviour was not acceptable -again.

Your DH needs to stand with you on this. He needs to tell your SIL to grow up. Her behaviour was immature and hurtful to everyone not just you. She's a bully and thinks she can get away with it. She may just get a fright if he confronts her or she may lash out at him and then he'll understand how it is.

ViviPru · 30/08/2012 09:14

Yes, OP, I think you've missed the crucial point here, that she has been rude to you and her parents in sneaking off for this meal. Couldn't you have taken that opportunity to enjoy a SiL-free occasion with your PiLs, reinforcing yourself in their eyes as a reasonable person who is also on the receiving end of her socially inept behaviour?

I'm also confused about the fact that one of her sons was in the car with you? You mention grandparents, do you mean your GPiLs? The details around that part of your account are all really confusing, but I think quite relevant in painting the picture of why you are feeling the way you do now... Could you clarify?

albertswearengen · 30/08/2012 09:28

It's up to the PIL's whether they find that unacceptable- they obviously have spent years excusing her rather than face up to the truth that she's a cow. My PIL do the same thing. They don't want to believe their daughter can be immature and dishonest so buy whatever nonsense she feeds them even when it makes no logical sense. That's up to them.

However the OP has every right to take offence if she wishes. She dragged herself out when she had been injured to do the right thing and go to an event for her SIL who doesn't like her. Her SIL organised a big family do and then sneaked off to the pub with her friends.

DappyHays · 30/08/2012 09:32

DH should ask her what her problem is.

Don't exclude yourself from family occasions but I think it would be perfectly acceptable to exclude yourself from any of her occasions, e.g. her significant birthdays. In those instances send DH and your DCs and be busy putting your feet up doing other stuff that day.

When you do have to be in her company, be falsely nice. That will piss her off more than you giving her the cold shoulder.

She's a tube, by the way.

porcamiseria · 30/08/2012 09:40

this is a tough one

one the one hand she sounds like a complete and utter cxxt. if she was a friend I would say delete and CUT

but for your DHs sake....she is family

compromise- stop talking about it for a while. dont let her take the airspace up

but next do say "I will come, on the conditon that you observe exatly what she does" then say if it continues you want him to talk with her

porcamiseria · 30/08/2012 09:41

and try and ignore her

hello. bye. no eye contact whatsoever. bare minimum

Tabliope · 30/08/2012 09:50

What's her husband like? He sounds as bad if he condoned her excluding her brother and parents and you from the meal. What an odd thing to do. And like Vivipru I'm confused why one of her kids was with you at the pub. If you don't like her try to develop a don't care attitude towards her. That way you could have gone off after the church part of the christening and had a nice pub lunch. She doesn't matter in your life. Just keep telling yourself that. It will take the wind out her sails a bit too to see none of you are bothered when she acts like that. Don't engage with her at all. Just go and smile at the rest of the family and leave it like that.

Tabliope · 30/08/2012 09:53

porcamiseria's right - hello, goodbye, cheery smile to someone else and no eye contact. I'd be the life and soul at any family do smiling and laughing with everyone else but her but not obviously excluding her just to get up her nose. I'd be so sweet to the in laws they couldn't help but respond positively. She wouldn't like that one bit. Be clever about it otherwise you'll cause a problem with your husband as he'll be in the middle.

chevytruck · 30/08/2012 11:20

Answers...
HeartsJandI I would never send my kids off with DH if I thought for a minute that they would be affected by this. The sad fact of the matter is that when they do see their cousins, they LOVE each others company. So I'd rather allow them contact and SIL wouldn't be mean to them too, than punish them by stopping that relationship also.

spidermanspiderman I announced my pregnancy well after her wedding (publicly) at about 14 weeks. Was only 9 weeks at her wedding. But told her almost the day I found out as we were close friends at the time.

Iheardthatpardon It wasn't about the christening, per se. Or even the meal. It was just the finally straw in being snubbed, after putting up with it for 4 years, and felt like it was aimed at me personally.

cansu SIL wasn't tidying. She went to meet her friends, she says only briefly but we only her have word for that. Her explanation this morning was that she has a problem with her FIL so rather than have a family 'do', she wanted to go to the pub with her friends do nothing instead.

Hopeforever She's always treated her parents like that. One of the reasons I was never keen on her to start with - she treats them like they're around just to serve her purposes.

Anyway. The shit has royally hit the fan this morning. FIL sent her an email saying she should call me, against my wishes. She called me at work this morning (didn't answer - not having THAT conversation in front of colleagues) and left a voicemail changing it (again!) from something that happened 4 years ago to other health problems she's having within her own family. Problems that I am totally and utterly, as a mother understanding of. This issue is nothing to do with either of our kids, but she's left a fairly aggressive voicemail ending up in her crying, and then calling DH to cry at him too. Said the reason she dropped me (distance, she calls it) is because I was telling her things about her brother that she was uncomfortable with.

Now for starters, I AM NOT STUPID ENOUGH to have said anything to HIS SISTER, even if we had have been having problems. Whatever I said would have been girly chat (I don't remember having said anything vaguely 'deep, dark or scary'). I was not and will never cheat, or do anything to jeaopardise my relationship with my DH. I love him. Simple.

So now - its turned from him wondering what the hell I said, and her crying, so he feels sympathetic towards her, and the health issue and basically I'm the one continuing it and need to man up.

The minute she bullys me again - he'll say something. I'm saying that means you're asking me to give her one last chance, he says its called being the bigger person. I'm shaking. I'm furious that she's put me in some inaginary situation where somehow I'VE ENDED UP IN THE WRONG.

I give up.

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chevytruck · 30/08/2012 11:24

Vivipru In the carpark she asked if GPIL would take her two eldest to meal and bring them home after - she would take baby home to feed and then tidy...

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chevytruck · 30/08/2012 11:24

GPIL have her kids a lot.

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chevytruck · 30/08/2012 11:26

My son wanted to go in GP's car and so it was agreed that (rather than us take one of her kids to the pub and she take two home with her) that we take the third in the car with us. Bonkers I know.

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ViviPru · 30/08/2012 11:27

Oh my god what a piece of work she is Shock

chevytruck · 30/08/2012 11:31

DH just won't back me up - its kind of nice to hear that other people have such awful problems but in most cases DH is agreeing the the distancing. My DH says I'm forcing him to become a single parent at family functions and that it'll force a rift between us.

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albertswearengen · 30/08/2012 11:33

She is my SIL. When she's caught she tries to blame everyone else or confuse the issue with random excuses or just make stuff up to make me look bad. And if that doesn't work she cries - a lot- and you are made to look like the evil SIL.

Don't fall for it and don't let your DH fall for it. If I were you I would be even angerer now she's tried to turn your DH against you.

You will never ever get someone like that admit they are in the wrong. Just totally disengage. The one thing my SIL can't stand is the fact DH just is totally disinterested in her and her antics. It drives her mad.

PineappleBed · 30/08/2012 11:34

Your DH doesn't believe any of that shit does he? Tell him it's bollocks and that message is passive aggressive bullying so that was "the next time"/her last chance and she blew it.

Personally I'd go to big event (births, marriages, big birthdays, deaths) as why should you miss out 'cause she's a bitch? But I'd can any small events (bbqs etc) and let DH go if he wants.

If people ask why you aren't going say dsil doesn't want you there (as it's the truth) or if you don't want the fuss say you're busy.

PineappleBed · 30/08/2012 11:35

Albert is right, a lack of attention on her from your DH will be the best punishment.

EldritchCleavage · 30/08/2012 11:37

Well I can understand being annoyed at the meal thing. She acts like a twerp, you all sit around lying to each other with this fiction of 'she's going home to tidy' instead of just saying to each other 'Gosh she's rude. Still, let's have lunch' or something healthy.

I'm so sorry FIL rang SIL. The whole dynamic (with your DH too) seems to be that this a problem YOU have to fix, because no one wants to tackle SIL. But if everything is as you say, this is a problem caused by SIL. People should not be getting you to put up and shut up to try and make the problem go away.

She is probably never going to treat you properly. Does your DH acknowledge that? If he does, he needs to discuss with you what the 2 of you are going to do about it. I would play things a bit more by ear than deciding now never to go to family gatherings, but make clear any attendance is dependent on real backup from him. In the moment that things happen, too, not long afterwards.

chevytruck · 30/08/2012 11:38

But pineapple and Albert - DH refuses to back me up. Still on the phone with him persuading me to let him phone her saying I've agreed to drop it and let bygones be bygones and go the frickin' family stuff.

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Viviennemary · 30/08/2012 11:42

She doesn't sound very nice. But don't think she has done anything that bad tbh. She's a silly selfish immature woman. Not a superbitch. But if she upsets you then YANBU to refuse to attend family events. Why become upset. No point.

Bellyjaby · 30/08/2012 11:43

chevytruck - did you delete the voicemail? if not, and its aggressive, let DH hear it. I'd be inclined to tell DH where to stick it tbh as what he's said is manipulative in itself. I'd be inclined to say that if he's worried about being a single parent at these events he doesn't have to take the kids and can go by himself. agree totally with pineapplebed - she just blew her last chance by lying about you.

albertswearengen · 30/08/2012 11:49

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Just saw your update- he is the one that is causing these problems because he won't stand up for you. I presume she is nice to him so he's not bothered in causing a row however, he's happy for you to feel bullied. DH was the same until she tried one of her bullying campaigns on him.

Can you not point out to him that she is now stirring things in your marriage in order to get away with treating her family like shit. I take it the whole family have spent a lifetime excusing her.

chevytruck · 30/08/2012 11:50

Belly Still got the voicemail. But he won't listen to it. He'll just say it's tittle tattle.

I am starting to question my relationship. And his loyalty to me. And now sitting in floods of tears. It feels like mind control this telephone barrage...

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chevytruck · 30/08/2012 11:52

Yes, Albert a lifetime of excuses.
Actually FML.

And no, he's now decided that I'm the one continuing this and causing marital/family problems.

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