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...to think this 'Chav' board game is inappropriate & unpleasant?

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ravenAK · 12/08/2012 18:11

Chav

I think it's an unwelcome normalisation of an offensive term. Don't like it at all.

OP posts:
FrothyOM · 13/08/2012 11:14

Anyone who buys that game is as idiotic as the 'chavs' are supposed to be.

OP YANBU

wordfactory · 13/08/2012 12:04

Yes there is anti social behaviour elsewhere but it is not as endemic as on some estates.

Perfectly decent neighbourhoods have been runined by these people. Lives utterly blighted.

Pretending this aint so, or defending them as disenfranchised is a kick in the teeth to every decent person (working or not) living there.

Sallyingforth · 13/08/2012 12:10

I don't see Chav as a term for council estate residents, just for the council estate shits
Too true Kayano. And some naice private estate shits too.

TheQueenOfDiamonds · 13/08/2012 12:26

I don't see why people get offended tbh. They could just stop being chavs if they don't want to be called chavs. You don't see goths, emo-kids, scene-kids, townies or punks getting their knickers in a twist because people have pointed out the social group they look and act like they belong to!

NPPF · 13/08/2012 12:26

"Sneering is sneering whatever class the person is and there is far too much of it on MN all day every day. The sneerers are usually those that see themselves morally superior (yes because if your child was in need of life saving care I really believe you wouldn't go private on principle) and have a huge chip on their shoulder. In order to have this so called moral compass, stop slagging people off for riding horses, being chavs, sending their kids to private schools etc. If you want to change things get off your arse and do it. and if that means buying a nice handbag and aspiring to things in life, bloody good for you."

Well said Theo!

gallifrey · 13/08/2012 12:30

lol at working class! They don't go to work! It should be called benefit (no) class ;)

usualsuspect · 13/08/2012 12:47

Have you ever seen someone say 'thats an Emo kids name' on the baby name threads?

So don't tell me it's the same thing because it's not.

Kayano · 13/08/2012 12:50

I've seen Lars and Jareth described as goth names. In real life!

usualsuspect · 13/08/2012 12:51

But according to this thread ,gallifrey being a 'chav' has nothing to do with benefits or not working, it's about attitude.

Which is it? you can't have it all ways

captainhastings · 13/08/2012 12:57

I have been sneered at for having chavvy things and I have almost always worked.

Many of my relatives who would get torn about on here and get called chavs have worked .

sancerreity · 13/08/2012 13:39

Ithink it's fab .Gonna buy it for DSs at xmas!

Socknickingpixie · 13/08/2012 13:43

if it where just passing comment on somebody purely due to behaviour that is criminal like many of the things that have been mentioned in other posts under the term antisocial behaviour then you are not sneering at a person its stating you feel criminal behaviour is wrong. but if that where genuinly the case would you really use the word chav or would you say antisocial.and could it equally apply to someone who was say a lord.

why do we have things that are deamed to be chav wear, chav hair, chav names we even have chav jobs and chav children.a huge ammount of people may never have seen any actual aspect of these peoples behaviour they just make a judgement based on area lived in/school attended this that are compleatly dependant on income level. and it is very rarely used just as a comment on type of dress like saying goth. if you live in a poor area you are very likly to get called a chav as an insult but you are unlikly to have quite the same venom applied if you like to wear black or want to die your hair green.

if you saw me in my place of work you may look at me and assume 'chav' you would be highly unlikly to think it if you saw me dressed the same way in a different enviroment if i saw you in my home area and i were so inclined (im not) i may look at you and think chav. both of us would probally be very wrong.

no matter how high up the ladder you are or think you are somebody will allways look down on you because they think they are better and 99% of the time we totally accept this as unacceptable or just compleate stupidity its a bit of a joke on the person doing it like mrs bucket on keeping up apperances. its only when it comes to the word chav or commen that so many people think its ok.

you personally may only use the word to describe criminal behaviour or bad manors but so many people dont so many people use it as a insulting descriptive word to describe anybody who lives or did live on an estate they lump everybody into the same group and use it to put the entire group down.games like this one just reinforce that attitude.

as a child i had an aunty who was fairly unplesant she would have looked at a perfectly decent law abiding person who did unskilled or skilled manual work and anything they did would have been "oh so very working class" said in a unplesant way anybody was up the ladder would have been "dreadfully middle class" but anybody who tried to move upwards would have been getting ideas above their station.if chav was around she would have been delighted to band that about and would use it to describe all those people,i never enjoyed her company she was nasty

TheQueenOfDiamonds · 13/08/2012 13:53

Of course its the same thing, if anything, emos and goths get it even worse than chavs, because not only do they get judged by everyone anyway, they have to put up with the scum of the earth ganging up and beating them!

Bumblebee333 · 13/08/2012 13:54

It wasn't aimed at you Bupcakes. It was aimed at the assumption that King of the estate means council estate. It doesn't actually say council estate on the information provided with the game, so it has got to be peoples preconceived ideas that chavs live on council estates.

TheQueenOfDiamonds · 13/08/2012 13:55

why do we have things that are deamed to be chav wear, chav hair, chav names we even have chav jobs and chav children

The same reason we have all those things labelled as goth, emo skater etc.

usualsuspect · 13/08/2012 13:58

Of course it means council estate.

So why don't people say a childs name is emo/goth then?

Socknickingpixie · 13/08/2012 14:00

what would be an emo/goth/skater job then?

theodorakis · 13/08/2012 14:00

I agree that antisocial is the best term for people who are, well, antisocial. Unfortunately, that will soon be considered a label and something else will have to be thought of. I don't think there is anything wrong with labelling and subsequently avoiding antisocial people.

I have never really thought of chav as an insult or a way to describe people of a certain class. People call the TOWIE people chavs, they are not unemployed and they live in bloody great houses. I thought it was just someone who wore a certain type of stuff and didn't ever consider if they worked. Most normal, working class people do work.
I agree with outlawing the word chav if we can also admit there are some fucking nasty anti social people out there who do not want to be part of our society. I wish they would fuck off and take their shitty dangerous dogs with them. Bastards.

Kayano · 13/08/2012 14:00

Anyone who deems it acceptable to step outside in pj bottoms for the school run is chavvy IMO Wink (stirring)

TheQueenOfDiamonds · 13/08/2012 14:01

They do usual.

Kayano · 13/08/2012 14:01

I've already told you usual that people have commented that Lars and Jareth are goth names Confused

You just ignored me

usualsuspect · 13/08/2012 14:03

I've never ever read on MN someone say, thats names a bit goth/emo/skater. yet the baby name threads are full of words like chavvy, chavtastic etc.

theodorakis · 13/08/2012 14:03

I often go to work in my pj's, just sling on an abaya and a pair of killer heels!

ThePathanKhansWitch · 13/08/2012 14:04

TheQueen Grin I read your earlier post ^ way up yonder, about a few attributes of Chav's , dodgy clothes, intimidating the most vulnerable.
And my first thought was "sounds like the House of Commons" and my second thought was "No sounds like the Bullingdon Club!". Brilliant post.

usualsuspect · 13/08/2012 14:04

If you started a thread asking for an opinion on the name Jareth ,noone would say it's a gothtastic.