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...to think this 'Chav' board game is inappropriate & unpleasant?

247 replies

ravenAK · 12/08/2012 18:11

Chav

I think it's an unwelcome normalisation of an offensive term. Don't like it at all.

OP posts:
Alurkatsoftplay · 12/08/2012 20:55

Where is new adding ton? I don't get it...

NCForNow · 12/08/2012 20:56

Please don#t ask Alurk I don't think any discussion about that belongs on here.

NCForNow · 12/08/2012 20:56

I will pm you now.

Bumblebee333 · 12/08/2012 20:57

Yeah I have. It is my opinion that so long as people make excuses for other groups of people, there is no reason for them to expect any more from life than their parents. Luckily there are people out there wanting to help them to help themselves.

Alurkatsoftplay · 12/08/2012 20:58

Ah, i see, thank you nc.

whiteandyelloworchid · 12/08/2012 20:58

ncfornow yeah your probably right, working class who are deluded enough to think they're in a better position than the "chavs" they're laughing at

without realising a hell of alot of people with more money than them, would consider them chavs

i find the word offensive, and lose respect for people that do it.
on of my friends who acts very liberal and leftie uses it and it shocks me

ravenAK · 12/08/2012 21:00

So, instead of 'making excuses' for a group of people, the best thing to do to motivate them would be to devise board games to ridicule them & entrench other 'groups of people's offensive attitudes towards them Bumblebee333?

Sorry, I don't see the logic.

i think Sallying's post pretty much covered, tbh, the reasons why those attitudes are abhorrent.

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GingerWrath · 12/08/2012 21:03

Get away with sitting on their asses, churning out kids by different dads who are also sitting on their asses, without committing to any of them. Saying they won't take demeaning work such as McDonald's!

I have worked some god awful jobs including clearing tables at a motorway services, but I WORKED! I was on income support for 3 months as a 17 year old and I HATED it!

I am working class and I will work, not just sit on my ass!

Socknickingpixie · 12/08/2012 21:04

whiteandyellow i think thats hit the nail on the head. after all it wasnt long ago that befor the word chav became mainstream the often socially acceptable insult was working class used in that way its also nasty

Bumblebee333 · 12/08/2012 21:05

No obviously the game is ridiculas!! I just meant in general in response to them being weak.

ThePathanKhansWitch · 12/08/2012 21:06

NCfor Sad sorry. I should have left it to stand.

I never report, open forum and all that. Some things sacred ground. What a disgusting comment.

Alurkatsoftplay · 12/08/2012 21:08

I guess I find the squeamishness among the mc about the word a little ott.

Many wc people use the term, because it is us who are most threatened by the lifestyle choice some of those around us are making. And that's not about benefits or not benefits it's the conspicuous and deliberate living outside and off the system yet making from and taking from the system.

It probably is deluded but when your anti social non working neighbour has more money than you, then as a wc person that's all you've got.

usualsuspect · 12/08/2012 21:21

I'm not MC

Socknickingpixie · 12/08/2012 21:29

many words that are mostly used as an insult also get used by people within the groups they are intended to insult one inperticular springs to mind but i would rather not use the word.

alurk do you know that often when people say chav what they really mean is working class or just lower class than 'us'? imo its like looking down on other people either in your comunity or not because you (not you personally) belive they are slightly or much lower down the scale than you.
people like the rooneys and beckhams well basicly anybody from a working class or lower class background who makes it big being called chavs and new money.

Socknickingpixie · 12/08/2012 21:31

but usual didnt you know everybody is mc now,no other class exists Grin

TheQueenOfDiamonds · 12/08/2012 21:31

I don't have any sympathy for the sorts of people I would describe as a chav (which seems to have developed different meanings depending on area).

The 'chavs' I know grew up with the same sorts of opportunities and some of them come from families significantly better off than mine. Its their own stupid behaviour that's earned them the label.

I won't say it of all, but certainly the ones I know.

BupcakesandCunting · 12/08/2012 21:32

I love how hand-wringy MN gets over the demonisation of the chavs. It's truly heartwarming.

Socknickingpixie · 12/08/2012 21:33

so what sort of people would you describe as a chav?

NPPF · 12/08/2012 21:34

I'd like that game but as I am unemployed I can't afford it. I'm not a chav though.

Alurkatsoftplay · 12/08/2012 21:44

I like what bupcakes said.

OlympiaMumsnet · 12/08/2012 21:46

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NoLogo · 12/08/2012 21:52

I occasionally use the word to describe people behaving very badly in public with no manners or consideration for others. I would certainly not call them working class. I am from working class stock and would probably still describe myself as working class a MC makes me flinch.

usualsuspect · 12/08/2012 21:54

I think I'd rather be called a chav than MC.

NoLogo · 12/08/2012 22:16

There you go, me too.

MarianneM · 12/08/2012 23:11

Not a lentil weaver then usualsuspect?

Or a Guardianista?

A Sandal-wearer?

Lactivist?

A Boden-wearer?

A few ishoos perchance?