...to think this 'Chav' board game is inappropriate & unpleasant?

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Chav

I think it's an unwelcome normalisation of an offensive term. Don't like it at all.

'The aim of the game is to be King of the estate'

So it's perfectly acceptable to think all council estate tenants are 'chavs'

I cannot understand how anyone with a functioning moral compass would wish to play a game taking the piss out of those disenfranchised from society .

I think when you look at how the term chavvy is used it reveals a loathing for the working classes and s desire to keep them in their place . For example the middle classes were allowed to wear Burberry for years and no one minded , but as soon as a working class person started to wear it, the label became dirty and chavvy.

I can remember being sneered at by middle class work colleagues because I had a Burberry handbag .They saw me as a chav, not because I was unemployed or because I was violent but because I was a girl from a council estate who was trying to buy things that I thought were aspirational and in their eyes I had got it wrong .

Lets just hope the WC don't start wearing Hollister and Jack Willis then.

The people who do play it, are stupid enough to buy it, the very people who may be labelled as chavs do not have a functioning moral compass. That is the whole point.

No the whole point is to sneer at people who live on council estates.

And why label someone a chav, just because of what they wear?

When does a label become Chavvy? how come it's perfectly acceptable to wear some labels but not others.

captain, that is horrible. I have too saved up for and treasured things and been sneered at, especially now I live in the ME and am used to a bit of a blingy style, much sneered at when I go home and get laughed at by my family for having a nice pair of shoes.

Sneering is sneering whatever class the person is and there is far too much of it on MN all day every day. The sneerers are usually those that see themselves morally superior (yes because if your child was in need of life saving care I really believe you wouldn't go private on principle) and have a huge chip on their shoulder. In order to have this so called moral compass, stop slagging people off for riding horses, being chavs, sending their kids to private schools etc. If you want to change things get off your arse and do it. and if that means buying a nice handbag and aspiring to things in life, bloody good for you.

I have been called a chav, I have a functioning moral compass . My family are often called chavs, they certainly have a moral compass however they are also poorly educated, live on council estates, flit between one poorly paid job and another and like chunky jewellery and sportswear . They all have a very strict moral code and attend church every week .

My DS has been called a chav, because of where we live too. But thats ok hes only a council estate kid, fuck him eh?

I can remember being sneered at by middle class work colleagues because I had a Burberry handbag .
That's an interesting turn of phrase. It seems to me that 'middle class' and 'working class' and just as capable of multiple definition and misunderstanding as 'chav'.

If they are work colleagues, surely they are working class?

If you met me in RL, saw where I lived and what sort of car I drove you might say that I was 'middle class'. But if I had to define myself by class I would say that I'm working class because I have to work for a living. If I stopped working I would go hungry.

Exactly captain, I very much doubt your family would buy or play this game. I also think that many families who are cohesive and very functional shoulod not be labelled as anything because they wear chunky jewellery or have Burberry etc. I know so many people who have a strong tie to their family and would be there like a shot if anything happened. The people described by wordfactory do not, in my opinion, deserve anything, no help and no respect.

Wordfactory I can guarantee that my extended family would be labelled as chavs. They live in leisure wear, they do the chunky jewellery from Argos ( my Aunt) loves her clown necklace )they wear baseball caps , they had their children young some by different fathers, they live on estates etc.

But they are decent working class people , they do not treat others with disregard, in fact most of them do voluntary work and they have a strict ethical code . They are labelled because of where they live and how they look.

If its not about where you live why is the game set on a council estate?

Sallyyingforth at the time I was working in retail management, I have experienced similar when working as a teacher.

My point is that we do not just use the term chav to describe people as described by Wordfactory . We use it to describe working class people from estates who dress in a manner that the middle classes see fit to mock .

I don't work, nor does DH. We live in social housing. Difference is we are carers and also face this kind of prejudice for being spongers.

I do wonder why people do it, is it fear? Are they worried what happened to us could happen to them (used to be well paid homeowners but lost it all) and therefore by deriding us they somehow protect themselves?

My mum still lives on the council estate I grew up on. I certainly don't sneer at people who live on council estates or else I'd be sneering at my own family. I just can't get all lentil-weavey about chavs being demonised.

Is it a council estate or just an estate?

I live on a council estate and might be considered a bit chavvy by some, am not offended by this game at all. Guess it depends on where you live, chav is not offensive at all round here

The game just looks like a piss take of that game of life or whatever it was called

I do get all "lentil weavery" or fucked off about it because people are mocking my family, my heritage and my choices,

I only get lentil weavery about anyone who lives on a council estate being labeled a 'chav'. Which does happen

The fact the game is set in a council estate sort of confirms that myth to me.

I live in a council estate next to a lovely old man and his mother and a policeman.

However up the road are so chavvy that we need to ring and report of there are ever more than 3 people in number 39 and get asbo notifications through the door or not.

I don't see Chav as a term for council estate residents, just for the council estate shits

Yes well anti social people live in other areas too.

If your question was for me Bumble, my mum lives on an actual council estate.