To think that no one will ever vote conservative again

[rogersmellyonthetelly]

At least in anyone in living memory of the current government and their immoral targeting of the most vulnerable members of society.
I voted conservative at the last election to my eternal shame, I won't make the same mistake twice.

I don't think the youth vote will move en masse from Lib Dem to Labour this time for the simple reason that (as per usual) there wasn't much of a youth vote. I can't remember the figures but under-25s was 0.1% higher than last time or some such marginal amount.

Young people don't vote, that's why they keep getting shafted. The sad truth is that more people voted for pro- tuition fees parties last time (Labour and the Tories) than voted for anti-tuition fees Lib Dems). And people wonder why tuition fees didn't happen.

There are more pandas in Scotland than Tory MP's. Somebody said that at Question Time a while ago.

Exactly madbus. I get do irritatated about claims that the lib send 'lied' over tuition fees. If we had been elected on our own, it would have happened, but folk can't seem to comprehend that as a minority party in a coalition we can't implement every single thing on our manifesto!

So much good stuff has come from lib dems in the coalition - the pupil premium is a massive one - that people just don't know snout or dismiss offhand. Oh well.

I voted Liberal Democrat last time and probably will do next time although I will consider voting Conservative as I think the current Government was dealt a very difficult hand in 2010 by Gordon Brown and the rest of the Labour Party.

What rubbish on this thread. Of course people will vote Conservative again and in their droves. The electorate have not forgotten how years of Labour has brought our country to its's knees and the Lib Dems have shown and continue to show that their word is worthless.

I sometimes wonder if the smartest thing to do would be for DC to ditch the Libdems and call an election this autumn and take a true majority into parliament for the next 5 years.

The polls have been labour majority for ages, haven't they?

I have a mental graphic of the parties, like the ones they do on TV on election night.
A row of piles of shit, each painted a different colour but all stinking inside.

I'll vote for them most likely. The only thing that I think they are seriously fucking up is the NHS, but as I was forced to pay private under labour anyway, I don't see what difference it will make. I'd rather have a stable economy where people can't choose to make a lifestyle out of having babies they can't afford.

I am at a loss as to why anyone would consider voting labour in the near future, given the state they left the country in. I just don't get it.They spent money they didn't have, lots of it on shite and then thought it was funny to joke about it.
What choice was there but to be tough as a new government.

I will never vote conservative.

I think its absolutely ridiculous that they are taking tax credits away from families (universal credit will be much less) and forcing women to effectiely go back to work after having children as soon as possible or the irony that they will provide tax credits towards childcare! - why not keep the tax credits as they are so mums can stay at home (if they wish) and not have to repool the money into nurseries! How stupid.

I'm not pro or against stay at home mums by the way, done both sides of the working and not working thing myself but I think its a con when the tories say they are pro the traditional family and then they just take take take ... And no one seems to give a fuck about the bankers on massive unjustified bonuses ... Nope its all about the average 2.4 children family managing on tax credits.

Haven't read full thread, but as a life long labour supporter I was genuinely prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt in 2010, especially in light of the coalition. 2 years on they will definitely not be getting my vote. Ever. Seeing George completely fuck up any chance of recovery, Iain Duncan Smith chase after disabled and unemployed people for every teeny penny at a time when there are no jobs to be had while granting a tax cut for the super rich has confirmed every bad stereotype I had of the nasty party.

A leopard doesn't change it's spots. The Tories will always be the nasty party.

I hope that post made sense... I just mean either have children because you can afford them and have no tax credits at all or have tax credits but spend them how you want - ie stay at home or childcare... Why should they give credits that have to be used on childcare when a woman wants to be at home which is arguably better childcare for the next generation.

the torys are just building on labours ground work headfairy, I worked for aim higher under labour and got a print out of their planned fee changes, they were the fee changes (with one minor change to one little section) now associated with the current gov

I went to children's centres that knew that cuts to them were set in stone under labour, the cuts happened under this gov but were happening anyway

I work for the NHS, had labour not made mind numbingly stupid decisions (which now make sense if you see the bigger bad cop/good cop picture!) and made the NHS look unsustainable, it would be un-touchable now! it didn't have to get into a state where the torys could come in and say that something has to give!

Ukip. Racism. Disablism. Why?
They have stated that they want disabled people to work, and if not capable, they would like to create 'villages'. They're manifesto states that those on incapacity benefits will get the same as students and jobseekers.

Nice.

Is Scotland votes for independance we will never need to see a labour government again.

I do think many people will vote Con again. As other posters have said many agree with their policies, and for many they haven't gone far enough.

The thing is, we none of us, (perhaps only billionaires/russian and chinese Oligarchs) live in isolation. If as a society/country, what you will, we become poorer, less well educated, unhappier and more dissatisfied, who would want to live here anyway?

If you are very wealthy or have a great education and skills that can go anywhere in the world, why would you choose to stay in a country where a large section feel they have no stake here?. And with that feeling, all the social
unrest,degeneration of cities/towns etc?

Of course you're insulated if you're wealthy (ie buy the best education, healthcare,live in a gated community if you must), but who wants to live in a hopeless, stagnant, sludge Britain?.

Sadly, about 30 odd percent of people still say they would vote Conservative.

Wiggle, why should the taxpayer provide so that women can stay at home instead of working? I really don't understand that mentality.

I stayed at home for a while, and then worked very part time so that I could be with my dc, but I could afford it. If I couldn't have afforded it then I would have waited until later in life to have children, or I'd have gone back to work. Like many many people have to. The government doesn't owe anyone a loving just because they had children.

Subsidised childcare is the way forward, I fully support tax credits beng paid to enable people to work if they want or have to.

If UKIP ever get into power I will emigrate before they get a change to send my boys to some kind of 'community'. Both my parents are UKIP supporters :(

The problem is that lots of people see the problems that Britain has as being caused by Europe, and UKIP can cash in on that.

i wonder which party people are going to vote for if they don't like cuts?

Labour promised 18bn worth last time.

Lib Dems support this round.

Who then? BNP? Greens?

Ukip do have a tendency to support the European myths, too.

As a country we are now trying to claw our way back from Labours spendthrift ways.
Policies like giving £200 or whatever it was to new parents. A huge amount of ridiculous unnecessary jobs being created in the public sector, 'liaison officer for one legged lesbian martian immigrants £25K' or some such shite.
You'd need your bumps felt to vote labour.

I would vote Green if we had a candidate. They do in the City but not in our borough.

Edgar It's not really about not supporting the cuts for a lot of us, it's about ensuring they're fairer, more across the board etc. At least be seen to be playing fair as a government. This government are not. They would appear to support the typical tory mantra: The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.

I didn't know that Lacking, however for me the final nail in the coffin was cutting the 50p tax rate. It doesn't even matter if the net effect was to increase revenues to HMRC (though judging by the amount of tax avoidance I doubt it would have made a jot of difference), the message was very clear. Poor people are a curse on society, rich people are to be cossetted and protected at all costs. It was a hugely political move.

Also, I do take a small umbrage at people who say Labour instigated this that and the other. It may well be that in 2009 for example Labour had started the process to limit benefits and reasses disability benefits. Whether they would have continued with those policies in light of the terrible economic situation we're still in is another thing. At that point we were showing sighs of recovery I believe, and we definitely were not in double dip recession.