To think that no one will ever vote conservative again

[rogersmellyonthetelly]

At least in anyone in living memory of the current government and their immoral targeting of the most vulnerable members of society.
I voted conservative at the last election to my eternal shame, I won't make the same mistake twice.

And EMA was never for people who went to university - it was always for FE.

I've no doubt this has moved on massively and is full of educated people who understand politics. I don't understand it at all.

I've never voted tory and absolutely never would. I would be relieved if more people like the OP decided the same thing - never to vote for them again.

But I've no idea if this will ever happen. I would love Labour to get in next time, I'm just not sure if they will. And even if they do, I think they are unlikely to put back the things that have been taken away by the tories...that would be very tough to do.

The future under conservative power really scares me.

EmilieFloge

I've no doubt this has moved on massively and is full of educated people who understand politics. I don't understand it at all.

I've never voted tory and absolutely never would. I would be relieved if more people like the OP decided the same thing - never to vote for them again.

But I've no idea if this will ever happen. I would love Labour to get in next time, I'm just not sure if they will. And even if they do, I think they are unlikely to put back the things that have been taken away by the tories...that would be very tough to do.

The future under conservative power really scares me.

The conservative spending plans will roll back government expenditure to the % it was at in 2005.

Oh noes!! Save us from the poverty!!!11!1!1

Ah yes the Tories - who will quite happily cut the number of police on our streets to save money but easily find £5million to fund Syrian Freedom Fighters - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19205204

Flatpackhamster, it's a shame you took the trouble to quote my entire post and then add something at the end which presumably was meant to make a point, and I don't understand at all...sorry.
Perhaps you could clarify what you are trying to say, you know, in idiot terms, for me?

I can't vote labour or Liberal, UKIP are a joke.

I can't not vote, Women fought and died for my right to.

I've no Fucking Choice, but I shall do so with a very heavy heart.

Women fought and died for my right to

They fought for your right to choose.

'because the voters are too selfish and only care about themselves'

The voters I know who are selfish and only care about themselves are Conservative voters like my colleague who resents paying 'so much' tax because it stops him from paying off his mortgage before he's 30.

I imagine he believes everything he's told about disabled people being feckless scroungers. Because he wants to. It suits his greedy nature and his prejudices.

I know a good few people who wouldn't have been able to go to college without EMA to pay for bus fees, books etc. Their parents, for whatever reason, didn't want to/couldn't/wouldn't pay for this stuff. EMA was a lifeline for a lot of kids.

I'll admit to being mildly ignorant when it comes to politics, but I don't know who to vote for in the future - all politicians/parties seem as bad as each other, and only have their own gain and that of their rich backers in mind when making policies. Why has no-one closed the loopholes that enable huge companies like Tesco and Amazon to legally evade enormous amounts of tax, for example? I genuinely don't understand.

Might just not vote. They wouldn't care anyway, I'm under 25 and poor, couldn't afford to go to university and am continually turned down for jobs. I don't fit into any of their target groups so they're not likely to do anything to help me anyway

If you don't vote you lose the right to complain IMO

I don't take people who don't vote then moan seriously.

Thanks, but I did vote last election. Am I allowed to moan now?

Sparks, I'm a basic rate tax payer. I was happy to pay it and very grateful that my DD got it, she was the last year to get it, sadly. The did try and take it off her last year but it was deemed illegal to do so, so they snatched a tenner a week off her instead.

She got it because I was on a low income, less than 20K a year at the time. It was means tested not given out to everyone or is that why you feel it was 'morally corrupt' because it was only given to poor families and yours isn't, so didn't get it.

My last post was about EMA!

Crikey, Starball

Surely voting for a party you don't actually want in power completely defeats the object of your right to vote?

Not only is it wasting your vote, it's actively countering someone else's - someone who really wants their party to get in. Or I suppose you could say you're tailgating/supporting someone who wants the same party as you to get in. But all the same, it's not what those women were fighting for you to be able to do.

That is depressing. I'd rather not use my vote than vote for something I don't believe in.

Yes, but if you don't vote in the next one (what you are considering) then you have to put up with what you get

Star ball - women fought for your right to vote if you want to not just vote for a party you don't like because feel obligated by events 100 years ago nearly

I voted tactically, well, that is I voted for the only party other than the tories who were likely to get in round here, and that was the liberals.

I did it because the councillors here are good and useful. What the central party did with the power in their hands was a huge disappointment. But I didn't vote for them to be in government, not directly anyway - more to keep the tories out of any power I could.

I thought that was how elections worked - there's no education about it at school, I think there should be - loads of people will have voted for the main parties rather than their local candidate, I suppose.

I wish I knew what to do next time - labour had no chance round here and no one appears to understand how the system works.

I think the trouble is that it's very easy to grant new benefits, but very VERY hard to repeal them afterwards. There was no such thing as EMA when I was in sixth form in the 90s, and people managed somehow, but it's now seen as unendurable hardship that it's been scrapped.

That's why it's so hard to make cuts. I think voters need to be more realistic about what's affordable and not attack every single cut as morally corrupt. Don't forget Labour would have made cuts too - it's just a question of what their priorities would have been.

On the bus fares to college though - my dad was vigorously defending his right to his free buspass (something else the elderly managed without 10 years ago) until I suggested that perhaps the country as a whole would be better off if these were given to students and the young unemployed rather than well-off pensioners. He thought about it for a bit and conceded that I was right.

If we haven't got enough money to pay for all the things that we used to pay for, then AT LEAST let's make objective decisions about the best way to distribute what we can spend. At the moment, govt policy favours Tory voters above everyone else, which is wrong.

Labour have no chance round here so I voted Lib Dem to keep the Tories out. However, if everyone who did the same vote Labour next time then Labour will have a chance.

I've voted LibDem for years - but not next time.
I don't like the smug way the Tories always win in my constituency. They know they are on to a sure thing, take us for granted and then fail to actually do anything for the local community.
I can't vote Labour - it would be a wasted vote (as they won't get in) and I would be implying that I support a party that really seems to be clueless.
UKIP are big around here - but I can't bear their politics.
BNP are also quite successful - over my dead body.

There aren't usually any other options - I used to vote Green years ago, but they have long since stopped fielding a candidate here.

There is a very strong possibility that the next general election will be the first one in which I do not vote.

Sadly I live in a Tory safe seat, I'm torn between Green and Labour. I'm very tempted to vote Green. No vote is a wasted vote. If we all felt that way no one would ever be elected. Your tiny one little vote is one voice in the choir, but every voice is important. Whatever you vote.

I actually still like Clegg but vote labour. He never stood a chance with crap lying Cameron really. Backed him into a corner and went back and fought against key lib coalition agreements.

They just don't have any real power to do anything.

I hate that people feel their votes don't matter because they live in 'labour' or 'Tory' areas, it makes their votes almost redundant and their voices unheard. I think we should have a different system actually

Kayano I do feel Clegg has had it rough really.He's got the Lib Dems closer to power than they ever have been. On their own they were never going to break the Con/Lab deadlock. So I think he took the only option available to him. It's all fine and dandy taking the moral high ground and saying you would never go in to coalition with the Tories, but I think they genuinely thought they'd have a better chance of influencing policy from inside the Government than from the opposition benches.

I do feel for them that their only shot at power has been so disappointing. They have been betrayed really. I hope they stand fast on Lords reform.

And of course they said the lords reforms wouldn't happen at the start of the Olympics so it got barely any press coverage. I hate Tories so much

One of the reasons I kept voting LibDem was in the hope that some changes would be made in the direction of proportional representation - it's the only way I can see my vote ever having any meaning.