I do not understand why people have kids when they can not afford them.

[sea74]

I know this topic will create lots of critics but i want to share my thoughts and see if anyone agrees or i am the odd one out.
I come from a european country where the fertility rate is 1.4 that is each woman/family has 1.4 child. Grandparents very often are the to help, but women (and men) are responsible enough not to have children if they can not afford them or look after them.
I grew up thinking that i want children not because i want them for me but because i have to donate life and their life must be a good life. Children are not mine but they are individuals.

Having said that, when i moved to the UK, i realised how things are different.
I feel that many people think children will not change their lives, they get pregnant easily, they do not really worry too much (and take contraception) in order to avoid pregnancies.
Then, when they have the child, you see that often these children live in broken families, or the single mothers do not have 50 pounds to buy them a decent meal, or they are left in front of the tv all summer because they had not planned childcare is expensive and grandparents live far.

Children should be planned carefully, i think and it is very selfish to have them without thinking of (and being ready for) the consequences.

Are you worried to name the country you are from OP, in case this thread disintegrates into everyone pointing out its flaws and inadequacies?
No country is perfect in its approach to its people, at best you reach a balance where the weakest and most powerless have access to all the basic resources to meet their needs.

Not the pre cut fruit!

What country are you from?

I'm guessing that country is England, Scotland, Wales or Ireland.

Or it might be the poster who castigated people for buying non-freerange and organic chicken i.e. the cheap basics chicken.

Poor people don't need chicken. . They can eat lentils.

She is from utopia

wowsers trousers, fifty quid for a 'decent meal'. I'd want a whole weeks shopping for that. . .

Ok then, from what the op is saying I will have to give my children up. ( I have 3.)

My H walked out on sat, and I have to go on benefit to survive.

Why the actual fuck should I lose my DC as my twat of a H went for me.

Op .

Ooh, maybe we could invent a form of contraception that only stops working when your bank account is happy! It could link through your smart phone so you could use it alfresco, or in accomodation that hasn't gotten round to getting wifi yet.

Joking aside I wanted to brain the OP of the cheap chicken thread.

Didn't realise having children was supposed to be done with military precision .

Why don't you go and live in China OP? I'm sure you'll fit right in there.

glasto cat - "I had one child. Where can I get the 0.4 child that I am short of?"

I'd like an 0.4 child too. I'm sure it would be much easier than a whole one.

I do think most people could save a lot of cash (and animals) by eating less meat though.

Oh do piss off.

The thing is, those European countries with low birth rates (i.e. below 2.1) will find themselves in an even worse economic situation than the UK in years to come, because they won't have enough people in work to support their ageing populations. They will have to import the offspring we so recklessly brought into the world, in order to prop up their public services. Who will be laughing smugly then?

Single parents can't have televisions? Where the fuck did that come from?

Thank God I found a man willing to marry me even though I had a child by another man . I'd be lost without me telly.

I have only got 1.0 of a child. I am a single parent though. With a great big telly. And I spend more than £50 on a dinner. I am not on benefits but I have an account with Barclays. I have a hydrangea bush in my garden.

Where does all that bollocks make me fit in on the shitlist?

Thanks for your thoughts, Sea74. I tried to have a 0.4 child but it came out as a whole.

I also can't write English properly.

If all children WERE planned

What jumping said.

Also, in lots of European countries, grandparents are able to look after children because they are not working well into their 60's.

Fuck the animals.

Kill 'em all.

JOKE

This thread certainly does take the biscuit
Do people magically know how their financial & love life is going to pan out?
What if your rich then end up with nothing?
What if you have a perfect married life but then end up a single mother?

Basically op: No-one apart from the small minority set out to have lots of dcs with no partner or income!!!
People that preach will some day realise that life doesn't always work out the way you predicted, oh and take another

I have two children so I have 0.6 of a child up for grabs, raffle tickets will be drawn at the close of the thread.

I wish to learn more of this utopia where unplanned pregnancy is nothing more than a myth and families live in harmony, no arsewipe of an excuse for a man ups and leaves his partner and children without a pot to piss in and a decent meal costs £50.

Please, tell me more.

narked depends where you shop i think.
I am ofetn shopping in large supermarkets, because of delivery option; and fruit and veg is vair vair expensive...and I is not convinced it is cheaper than being a meat eater? (no doubt you save animals though )