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Hubby's driving - problems with neighbours

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ProPerformer · 24/07/2012 08:43

Ok, so to start: my hubby has suspected Aspergers syndrome (Not officially diagnosed, but both of us strongly suspect it and a friend of mine who is an aspergers expert says he almost certainly has) - he sometimes finds it difficult to understand other peoples opinions on things, social conventions, body language, appropriate ways of speaking etc. and this has caused problems with various neighbours in the past. (Tbh I do sometimes think our neighbours, nice as they seem, have a vendetta against us as they always seem to have been talking about us behind our backs but.... Maybe that's just my anxiety disorder.... Sure it is.... Hmm )

Anyway.... The other day we came home from shopping to be confronted by one of our neighbours telling DH to 'please slow down coming in and out of the shared driveway as the neighbours have all been talking about how he drives so fast, especially since getting our new car.'.
As far as I could hear (I was staying out of it in the car!) she was being quite reasonable and polite to begin with, DH responded that her kids and other kids are often playing in the driveway and he has never been even close to hitting them before (This is true, he always looks out for kids and animals and if there are any always stops in plenty of time without having to emergency stop). Unfortunately, because of his Aspergers, his body language and tone of voice was rather aggressive and he did seem to probe a bit too much into her reasons for her statement rather than just smiling, nodding and saying 'ok ill try to be slower'.
Unfortunately our neighbour had, what she later confessed to be a mouth before brain moment' and made a rude remark about his driving which then made him storm into the house ending the conversation. I then felt obliged to go apologise to the neighbour on his behalf and explain about his suspected Aspergers. She was extremely reasonable and apologetic for upsetting him but re-iterated that he just drives too fast. I said ok, I had never noticed the problem, but I am not a driver so.... Prepared to take her word.
Anyway when I got in to DH and talked to him he really was trying to see the neighbour's pov but just was physically/mentally unable to. Then a couple of days later he came out with 'I've been looking at my speed in the driveway and it's 8mph which gives me plenty of stopping distance and I can't go much slower than that anyway cos of needing to turn and stuff!" - he says he will 'try' to be slower but is convinced he a) wont be able to do so and b) it will be more dangerous if he does as he'll be concentrating on his speed rather than what's going on in the driveway.

As I said, I've never noticed a problem with his speed in the driveway as he does always stop in loads of time and is always hyper aware of kids and animals bring around (he has only ever run over 1 animal while out on motorways for naff sake!) BUT if 'all the neighbours' are talking about his fast driving then he must be going fast right?

Who is BU - DH or the neighbours? I'm open to both possibilities as I really have no clue and I just want us all to get on Sad

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Ikickedthetyres · 24/07/2012 09:36

Danger. Not anger. On stupid phone.

Dprince · 24/07/2012 09:37

Can your expert friend have a word with him about coping techniques? And perhaps speak to him about going to the gp?

honeytea · 24/07/2012 09:37

I'd say keeping to 5 mph is a good idea, if he really can't drive the car that slow can he park it at the bottom of the drive?

Dprince · 24/07/2012 09:40

In all honesty, and I feel really awful saying it, but if he can't control a car at less than 8 mile and hour and can not judge what is a safe speed, should he really be driving?
Sorry I know that's harsh, but it seems he is aware of what is safe in certain situations. Sometimes a road maybe 30 miles an hour but it may not be appropriate to drive that speed.

Dprince · 24/07/2012 09:41

Seems he is not aware

AliceHurled · 24/07/2012 09:41

Properformer, I'm thinking of you now from you post about how you feel. I hear you. Have you seen anyone about feeling that way? People will be able to help.

ProPerformer · 24/07/2012 09:42

StewieGriffiinsMom I am getting some help from my docs for my anxiety and am taking citalopram. Unfortunately there is a massive waiting list for councellors on the NHS and our local 'free' charity counselling service is almost impossible for me to get to. Sad

My anxiety stems from school as I was always bullied and had people talking behind my back, didn't have many friends etc cos I was 'different' - (hated pop music, worked hard, wanted to be an opera singer!) and I had a mental breakdown while at uni because of other students bullying me. I find it hard to trust people and tbh it's the neighbours saying "Well we've all been talking about such and such" that is making me reclusive - I'm so paranoid they are talking about me behind my back and paranoid they are just 'pretending to like me' as they don't seem to like DH. It's complicated really. Don't know what anyone can do to help. Sad

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Serendipity30 · 24/07/2012 09:43

I think its digraceful that you are using an unconfirmed diagnosis for your dh's behavior. He needs to go and be assessed with an actual specialist not your friend. Also you dont need to be a driver to know when someone is driving fast

RevoltingPeasant · 24/07/2012 09:43

OP this is really interesting. My dad also has suspected Asperger's and is also defensive and 'proud' about his driving. He also drives too fast but is very keen on being able to stay in control at all times. He is a really good driver, to be fair, but sometimes I wince when I see him take a corner....

I think the idea of being able to control a fastmoving vehicle appeals to lots of men, and maybe the 'geeky' aspect of that more to men with Asp?

Anywho, you could sell the diagnosis to him on the 'facts' -you need to know, to know the 'facts' about his condition.

Also I think you might need to see someone about your anxiety! Seriously. Moving away will not help you, because the disorder will still be there.

Sirzy · 24/07/2012 09:46

He needs to reduce his speed, the fact he hasnt hit a child before is irrelevant driving to fast the risk is still there. On a shared drive he really shouldn't be going faster than 5mph

Sirzy · 24/07/2012 09:49

Also, I really dont see why driving slowly would be an issue for getting into your space. I can't say I have ever felt the need to speed into a space

ProPerformer · 24/07/2012 09:50

Thanks revolting peasant that really seems a great idea. Smile

Ikickedthetyres While I agree with you.... My DH is faster than some drivers I know but he is a very 'safe' driver despite that. I know many slower drivers who is feel much more nervous in or near their car when they are driving than with DH driving. Not excusing his speed by saying that btw..... Just trying to explain why as a passenger and non-driver I can't always tell the risks!

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AliceHurled · 24/07/2012 09:50

Properformer, there are all sorts of other things that might help you. It's a matter of finding something that works for you. I quite like Paul McKenna's confidence book and CD. It's not pricey and might give you some coping techniques.

Ikickedthetyres · 24/07/2012 09:53

Unless he's had advanced driving training then he's not any safer than anyone else.

And he's deluded if he thinks he is.

And that makes him more dangerous than me on two counts.

It's not his driving style, its his inability to appropriately judge risks pertinent to the situation.

And if you're not a driver, with the greatest of respect, you CANNOT assess the risks in the way that a driver would.

Ikickedthetyres · 24/07/2012 09:55

Oh and being a good driver is almost nothing to do with speed. Unless you're on the track or in a rally stage.

ProPerformer · 24/07/2012 09:56

shera04 my friend is a retired specialist so does know what she is talking about - but unfortunately can't diagnose herself being retired and not having done tests. But after just one time meeting him at a social event (about 5 hours) she asked me if he had Aspergers, and when I said 'no' she said she thought he did and should get diagnosed...... Unfortunately this was a couple of years ago and I don't see her often now and nothing I can say will convince him a diagnosis will be successful. So cue me signing up for an Aspergers training course to see if I can help him myself!
Agree he needs a formal diagnosis as it really is an 'excuse' otherwise - I guess my anxiety just makes me use it as a 'quick fix' to diffuse situations enough for me to feel comfortable enough to step in.

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Dawndonna · 24/07/2012 09:57

Presumably your dh holds down a job, has a family, has hobbies, leads a life in which he interacts with others without too great a difficulty? If so then the situation with the neighbours cannot be blamed on suspected aspergers but instead on dh not liking his driving being called into question...
Just to point out that it is perfectly possible to have a family, lead a life, interact etc and still be AS.

TenaciousOne · 24/07/2012 09:58

8mph sounds too fast tbh. He sounds like he is just making excuses about concentrating on the speed etc.

StewieGriffinsMom · 24/07/2012 09:58

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edam · 24/07/2012 09:58

He will have been taught how to control a moving vehicle at walking pace - barely moving or up to 4mph - when he learnt to drive. He needs to remember those lessons!

WorraLiberty · 24/07/2012 09:59

Honestly that entire OP could have been cut down to..."DH thinks 8mph is an ok speed when entering/parking in a driveway. Is he BU?"

The undiagnosed AS, the neighbours talking behind your back and all the rest of it is neither here nor there really is it? Confused

I also think 8mph is too fast.

ProPerformer · 24/07/2012 09:59

ikickedthetyres totally agree i cant asses risks in the same way a driver would, which is why I'm on here asking advice. Smile

Alicehurled thanks, I'll look it up.

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marquesas · 24/07/2012 10:02

I can sympathise with you about worrying that all the neighbours are talking about you as I have a little bit of a similar situation with balls going over into my neighbours gardens and it isn't nice.

I don't have an anxiety disorder so am able to ignore it but sometimes I rush from house to car to avoid any contact.

BUT your husband is going too fast. I know as a non driver it's difficult for you but just think about the physics of the situation. The car is a fixed solid object, the parking space is a fixed size how on earth could the speed at which you drive affect whether you can get into it (assuming you don't live on a steep hill or in a quagmire). I just don't accept your husband's reasoning.

StewieGriffinsMom · 24/07/2012 10:02

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whois · 24/07/2012 10:04

Your DH is being U.

8mph is pretty fast! You can go really slowly and still turn so that is a really silly excuse.

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