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To think that society should support women to have children early in adult life

228 replies

ReallyTired · 17/07/2012 19:36

Babies born to older mothers have a higher risk of special needs, it is harder to concieve after 35 and there are more likely to be complications with giving birth and pregnancy. It is far easier to give get pregnant and birth at 25 than 40.

Unfortunately women are under huge pressure to put off childbearing until their late thirties because its very hard to build a career after children. I feel that there should be more help for mothers returning to the workplace after children and stronger legistation to combat age discrimination. Ie apprenticeships should be open to mothers returning/ starting out in the work place as well as under 25s. I would like more help to allow mothers to have career breaks and return to the work place.

Surely its easier to change the attitudes of employers than basic biology. (Ie. its far easier to have a challenging career starting in your 40s than to start a family.

OP posts:
seeker · 17/07/2012 19:41

Is the article commissioned or are you a freelancer flying a kite?

GrimmaTheNome · 17/07/2012 19:42

I think society should support women to have children at whatever age each woman thinks appropriate.

thepeoplesprincess · 17/07/2012 19:42

YABU.

Society should support women to be able to make the choices they won't to make.

Not every woman wants to get knocked up ASAP for many reasons other than career, and that's fine.

BambieO · 17/07/2012 19:43

This is a brave post! I think you may get your typing fingers burnt OP although I hope not! I am mid/late twenties myself but a lot of people don't meet their OH until later in life so I don't think it's always choice to not get pregnant at 25 but I know what you are trying to say

poppy283 · 17/07/2012 19:44

What Grimma said

dreamingbohemian · 17/07/2012 19:46

I really hate this whole meme that women delay childbearing because of their career and that's the only reason (oh hi, Daily Fail). A far bigger influence is that women are marrying later, wanting to enjoy married life longer before children, and needing to save up more money before children due to outrageous housing costs.

Anyway it doesn't matter what society does if you don't meet a decent man until you're 35!

GrimmaTheNome · 17/07/2012 19:46

What RT said is a valid and important part of what I said, though.

BBisHavingAnotherBBaby · 17/07/2012 19:47

Naive post much?

AGE is ONE factor. I am 25 and struggled to conceive with my first child and current pregnancy.

Personality, finances, life situation, relationships are all another factor not to mention free fucking will why do you care???

SoleSource · 17/07/2012 19:48

I was twenty four when my SN Son was born.....Sick of people bashing Mothers because of their age.

tryingtonotfeckup · 17/07/2012 19:49

I'm an older mother, whilst there are increased risks with age, fitness and general health are important. In for my first child, at 38, sister thought I would recover from a CS really quickly because I was fit and healthy to begin with. Anecdotal, yes, but she was right.

As careers go, its difficult at any age, maybe when you are older you are more established, able to work freelance or wish to change careers anyway. I'm not sure I was under huge pressure to put off having children until I was older, just enjoyed a dual income, no kids and lie ins. One size does not fit all.

KissMyEmbroideryHoop · 17/07/2012 19:49

I think people shold bugger off and mind their own business.

Lizzylou · 17/07/2012 19:51

What utter bollocks.
Women should have babies when they want to, whatever their age.

Not every woman is a career woman, not every 20 something wants children at that age.

Such patronising twaddle.

Declutterbug · 17/07/2012 19:51

YANBU

Nothing at all wrong with having childre later in life for whatever reason. however, it would be sensible if the constructs of modern society didn't make it so hard for aspirational women who want a stable career to have their children in their early-mid twenties if that is what they wish.

medievalgirl · 17/07/2012 19:52

I just don't understand this, OP. Even though I and my female friends are professional women, I haven't seen much evidence that anyone felt compelled to delay having children for career reasons. What delayed a lot of us, though, was the time it took to meet and marry the right person. It takes two to make a baby, you know. Maybe there aren't enough professional men around saying they want to settle down and have babies early? Why's it all down to the woman??

Hassled · 17/07/2012 19:52

Is it easier to start a challenging career in your 40s? Really? You're fighting the perimenopause, you're slowing down, you can't remember what day it is and you're far less mentally sharp than you were in your twenties (it's possible this is just me).

Sunnywithachanceofshowers · 17/07/2012 19:53

YABU

thekidsrule · 17/07/2012 19:53

yabu,now in around about you,you want the goverment to legislate when women should have a family,because basically your saying there should be some sort of rule

dont we get ruled enough

or why dont we just become china or korea

or have i read your post all wrong

lovebunny · 17/07/2012 19:53

not going to happen. men like to go with young, pretty girls. if those girls are busy having babies the men get less shags.

lovebunny · 17/07/2012 19:54

fewer. fewer shags.

tittytittyhanghang · 17/07/2012 19:55

YANBU, imo i think it is preferable to have children earlier rather than later.

Noqontrol · 17/07/2012 19:56

I didn't want children when i was younger. I wanted to have fun, build my career and travel the world. I had my first dc at 38. Perfect age for me. No probs with pregnancy or birth, even if i am an old gimmer Hmm I find your op very patronising.

Mrsjay · 17/07/2012 19:56

women sometimes marry later the last few weddings i have heard of the couple were in their early 30s they havnt found the person they want to have children with it can be a whole list of things not just career based , personally I had my child at 21 most young women now are just finishing uni or college at that age , I didnt plan my baby she was a bit of an erm suprise most people are a bit more careful than we were Grin

LST · 17/07/2012 19:56

I was 20 when I started trying for our DC. 21 when DS was born. I don't expect anybody to support me. My career has never been on hold. My DP is now basically a SAHD

LRDtheFeministDragon · 17/07/2012 19:58

I do agree that of course women (and men ... who, um, tend to have a certain role in this that seems to be being ignored here!!) should be having children at the right age for them. And I see your point dreaming.

But I do think the attitudes to young parents can be really nasty. I know people who had babies at 18, 19, up to 25 and who were fully able to support themselves, happy in their relationships, etc. etc., and who still got judged or encouraged to have abortions. That is not right either. And it's not because they weren't interested in careers, or weren't bright - some of the most patronizing shite I've heard was a GP saying 'well, you could have a baby at your age, but of course only girls ('girls' Hmm) who are less academic and less ambitious want to do that. Bollocks. One of the most academic women I know had her baby as a teenager and I'm sitting here with the academic book she wrote a chapter in on my bookshelf.

Nothing wrong with not being a career woman, but it is insulting to all women to imply that you only have babies young if you are not very bright or committed.

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gatheringlilac · 17/07/2012 19:58

I think this. Yanbu. If you think about it, it would make the modern capitalist society a very different shape. More human shaped, i.m.o..

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