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To think if people are having a pay bar they should say so on invite?

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GlassofRose · 06/07/2012 10:40

I'm going to a wedding next week and my partner is the best man. The couple have been a bit funny with partner this year being very pedantic over what he can and can't write in his speech to the point he told them to write it for them. He's also been in trouble with the bride for getting the groom drunk on his stag night (a whole month before the wedding). They also originally didn't invite me, then invited me to evening only (I'll be travelling up there the night before with my partner so would have been twiddling thumbs in hotel till evening) until my partner asked for me to be invited properly.

I asked my partner to ask if it was a pay bar or free bar as I just had an inkling these two are having a wedding they can't really afford although there was no mention of it on the invite. The reply he got from groom was "Of course it's a pay bar we're paying for the wedding...

Either way, Do you think if guests are expected to be paying for their own drink it should be mentioned on the invite?

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piprabbit · 07/07/2012 11:55

We did drinks on arrival, wine with the meal and then brandy etc. with the coffees. Plenty for people to get very, very relaxed.
If they still wanted more (and apparently the relaxing did continue after we had left) then there was a pay bar.

FWIW my dad bought people a lot of drinks - he was quite excited about the whole wedding thing. But I don't think we needed to put that on the invite.

Rule of thumb: Assume you'll be buying your drinks - be pleasantly surprised and grateful if they are free.

trixymalixy · 07/07/2012 11:55

I totally agree about the suit thing, YANBU about that OP.

Cheriefroufrou · 07/07/2012 11:57

"She wasn't asking if its the norm!

She was asking if it shgould be mentioned on the invite"

its the same question because if its a common occurance, its not something that people will think to put on the invites, unlike, say a wedding in the sticks where the only taxi firm finishes at 12 am - that's V unusual so needs to be mentioned. Pay bar is not unusual, so not mentioned on invite

trixymalixy · 07/07/2012 11:57

Amber, what I meant was why text the groom to ask of it was going to be a pay bar, not why ask on this thread.

maples · 07/07/2012 12:01

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Johnnydeppsnewmrs · 07/07/2012 12:01

I have never been to a wedding where drinks are paid for - except at the sit down dinner. There is normally wine on the table and something sparkly to toast with.
At my wedding we had something to toast with and that is it, we had a very low budget, and everyone knew that - not because we told them on the invite, but because we only had best friends and family at the actual wedding.
No it should not say on the invite. People should assume it is a pay bar, unless told otherwise.
Maybe you should not attend.

AmberLeaf · 07/07/2012 12:01

Trixy

OP has explained that in her community its the norm for a free bar, the couple come from the same community but as they were making OPs DP pay for his suit she suspected they may scrimp in other areas, she wanted to know either way so as to plan her rapidly rising budget/costs.

WhosPickleisThatOnion · 07/07/2012 12:03

I have to be honest, I still wouldn't put it on the invite as its not the norm in my circle.

However, if I was from a community where it was the norm, yes prehaps it ought be mentioned. And I would mention it then.

justbogoffnow · 07/07/2012 12:04

No it's not generally 'etiquette' to state it's a free bar on the invite.

We always take cash/cards if attending a wedding (or take a couple of bottles of something if it was a 'bring a bottle' for the evening - been to one of these, was brill, not remotely bothered about being asked to bring drinks, the barbecue laid on = BEST wedding meal ever).

70% of weddings I've been to - free bar mostly on the basis in next paragraph, except a couple of Hindu weddings where there was no bar but each table was given 4 bottles of spirits, mixers, 6 bottles of wine and an array of soft drinks and as bottles were emptied they were replaced!!! Food was soooo fab too.

We provided a free bar in the evening (wine, beer, lager, soft drinks then if people wanted spirits they needed to pay). We took the view that weddings can be costly for people to attend (travel, possibly overnight accommodation, wedding gift etc) plus the bar prices at our venue were considerably more expensive than standard pub prices so we did not think it was fair to expect our guests to have a crippling bar bill because of our chosen wedding venue.

You sound royally pissed off about not initially being invited (rightly so, as best man's partner - ridiculous), which has made you 'pick at' various aspects of the event. If initially you were left off the invite list, either one/both of them utterly loathes you or, it's not unreasonable to think they have not 'cut their coat according to their cloth' and cost cutting measures included complete disregard for their best man and his partner. In which case they've taken the curious notion of 'our day' to the extreme.

I think if me and dh were in your shoes, once we knew I was not invited, dh would have resigned the post of best man and steered well clear of what sounds like a crap day from a guest's point of view.

piprabbit · 07/07/2012 12:04

But it is still rude to ask - I'd just assume I was paying for my own drinks and budget accordingly.

justbogoffnow · 07/07/2012 12:06

Haven't read whole thread, so take on board your point that in your community it's the norm to state the bar isn't free.

nkf · 07/07/2012 12:07

I don't think it's rude to ask. That part is a culture clash. But so is everything else. It's darned weird if they don't know your DP very well. Stay home. You don't like them much and it sounds like hard work.

trixymalixy · 07/07/2012 12:07

Exactly piprabbit.

justbogoffnow · 07/07/2012 12:11

Oh rats 'to state it's a PAYING bar on the invite' (had no sleep last night due to DH's constant foghorn snoring last night, bless him).

GlassofRose · 07/07/2012 12:11

Coconutty - Fuck knows?! lol

Dotty I don't know how many times I have to say this. On the occasions I've met them they have been lovely people and we've got on nicely. Since asking my partner to do the honours they've bombarded him with voicemails, texts and missed calls. Bride has been demanding an apology for getting her fella drunk at his quiet stag do at a bleeding night at the dogs a month before the wedding.

My partner is becoming increasingly pissed off at them and is regretting it. I have been peeved at their behaviour towards him and I do think their ways are odd... but i've put it down to wedding stress and hopefully normal niceness will resume once they're less stressed.

I wouldn't insult them by not turning up after they've extended a full invite and paid for my meal. I also wouldn't leave my partner to go alone as he doesn't want to.

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GlassofRose · 07/07/2012 12:12

whyalwaysboris

"These two" implies im not going to out them by using their names on a public forum.

So many take 2 and 2 and come up with 100

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nkf · 07/07/2012 12:14

Okay. You go. Assume it will cost a small fortune. Expect to do as yoi're told all evening. And then get royally pissed and jolly with your DP in the hotel room. And hope the newlyweds return to sanity.

FamiliesShareGerms · 07/07/2012 12:14

I don't get how it's rude to ask!! Obviously if it's done in a Hyacinth Bucket way it would be, but surely if you know someone well enough to go to their wedding (OP apart!), you know them well enough to clarify a few things about the day and not cause offence? I'd ask things like whether I needed to bring a high chair for my little one, whether there's decent parking at the church or is it better to walk from the reception venue etc etc. And I don't see the money side of things as any different (why are we so bad talking about money??). Or, the bride and groom could avoid lots of people asking the same questions by sticking an insert in with the invite with this sort of thing on it.

Which makes me wonder... Do most people send out invites with inserts with details on, or do most people only send out the formal "please come to our wedding" cards? My experience is the former, but then I've mostly been to free bar weddings :)

Coconutty · 07/07/2012 12:16

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AmberLeaf · 07/07/2012 12:17

I think you should go and leave after best mans speech, go back to your hotel room with a couple of bottles of wine and enjoy the rest of the evening with your DP!

Of course you should fully expect to pay for those bottles of wine and budget accordingly Smile

GlassofRose · 07/07/2012 12:17

Just realised my nickname on here might have made people I'm an alcoholic lol

I like a glass of Rose on a friday night and couldn't think of any other NN

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marriedinwhite · 07/07/2012 12:18

How much do some of your guests drink? Drinks on a arrival, topped up for about 90 minutes while receiving line/final photo's happen, drinks with the meal, champagne/sparkling for the toasts. Our guests arrived to the reception at about 4.30, probably had two to three glasses of pimms/beer/sparkly, etc., before sitting down to dinner at 6.30ish, meal/speeches lasted until about 8.30 - it was a beautiful day and everyone carried on until about 10.30 when we left. I don't remember anyone making themselves silly with drink although it flowed liberally throughout. I can't imagine why anyone would want much more after the reception to be honest.

GlassofRose · 07/07/2012 12:18

Familiessharegems -

Yes people do stick inserts in!

Usually with instructions on how to get there, maps etc...
I suppose my family are "crass" lol

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Cheriefroufrou · 07/07/2012 12:18

I sent an insert in the invites with all sorts of info:

No confetti
Transport links
accommodation options
maps
etc

no info about the bar, wasn't embarrassed it just didn't cross our minds, just like a free bar never crossed our mind when budgeting

TheDreadedFoosa · 07/07/2012 12:20

How have you muscled in?

Well, you werent invited were you? Then your dp asked them to change their minds. I get that you say it was dp who objected and asked on your behalf but personally i would have told him in no uncertain terms not to. Its cringey, and yes 'muscling in' about sums it up especially considering once youd got your invitation you asked if theyd be supplying you with alcohol!

There is not a single valid reason for you asking such a crass question. Make your own plan for either eventuality, fine but in asking you have simply made yourself look ridiculously lacking in social grace.

I guess the invitation to be best man was made after a few drinks and is now being regretted by all.