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to think that women are stupid?

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lovebunny · 06/07/2012 05:57

elsewhere, there is a complaint about being unsupported when breastfeeding. this is a feminist issue - and the fault lies fairly and squarely at the feet of women.

i am astounded that after the battles fought in the seventies and eighties, women have allowed such regression.

look how stupid women are today. they have their bodies surgically adapted to men's fantasies - breasts enlarged, labia trimmed - they bleach their hair, tattoo their eyeliner and lipstick and have themselves spray-painted. they remove their pubic hair so they look like children for their (multiple) partners. if you read about it in a book on social anthropology you'd be horrified at the 'oppression' of women. but women think they are choosing this!

then they say 'oh, its not fair, no-one supports me when i'm breastfeeding'. too damn right they don't. because you and your compatriots have allowed everyone to see you as barbie dolls to use and abuse. they don't want to see you being women, being grown up, feeding your babies, that spoils the fantasy. you created this; live with it.

when you've finished screaming at me about your 'rights' to have your mons pubis decorated with fake jewels and to have your isabella piercing, organise yourselves.

wash your faces, let the fake tan fade, cut off your dyed hair and let it grow back naturally, so your babies can recognise the human being their genetic memory was expecting to find here. stay free from chemicals that mask your natural odours, so your babies can recognise you by smell. if people are pressurising you to 'go back to work' say, 'certainly. when this baby chooses to stop breastfeeding'. that gives you four to five years at home, maybe longer, when you are doing something no-one else can - being your babies' mothers.

the 'male' has been accepted as the 'norm' in society - so some early feminists wanted to be like men - some of that lingers. but feminists who believe in the strength and value of the female, have retreated into hiding. wake up! speak up! these are your daughters, sisters, aunts, even your mothers tarting themselves up and whoring themselves out to all and sundry trying to be 'wives and girlfriends'! they're too stupid to realise they've been conned!

educate your daughters. make them aware of political and societal manipulation. make women free - free from pressure to look a certain way, behave a certain way. free, in fact, to be women. free to want to eat without guilt, work, reproduce, raise children, form partnerships, find contentment and find peace of mind.

don't leave this to someone else. if strong women don't act to make the world a better place for women, no-one will. and in twenty years' time, i'll be reading 'oh, society doesn't support breast-feeding mothers'. again.

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roundtable · 06/07/2012 06:35

Be careful not to pop that bubble with your self righteous ranting op.

I don't many stupid women at all.

Make sure you unpucker that face before the wind changes and you stay that way as that's not very natural is it?

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Dprince · 06/07/2012 06:36

If the business hadn't been in a position for me to work there I would have stayed at my job. The family finances are both our responsibility.

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roundtable · 06/07/2012 06:38

I don't know many stupid women, that should read.

W riting and holding a wriggling baby, who knew women could do two things at once...

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ohchristFENTON · 06/07/2012 06:45

Have you benn hanging out on the set of TOWIE?

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ohchristFENTON · 06/07/2012 06:46
  • been

    bit early for this

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Showmethemhappyfeet · 06/07/2012 06:46
Biscuit
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lovebunny · 06/07/2012 06:47

gin? i don't usually drink... i'm off to work now but i'll try to remember to buy some alcohol on the way home tonight, if you think i'll need it. i might be late, though - i'm booked in for a spray tan and lip-liner tatoo at 7.30....

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GiserableMitt · 06/07/2012 06:49

thanks for reading, by the way, it's long.

I didn't past the first couple of ranty paragraphs. I found the answers more amusing :)

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sashh · 06/07/2012 06:49

The last time I wore make up was about 5 years ago, I have never had anything other than my legs waxed, my hair is my natural colour I am so pale you can see all my veins.

But I feel like going out, getting a spray tan, a vagazzle, dyeing my hair and having extensions put in.


And you know what? My brain will actually still work.

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ObiWan · 06/07/2012 07:07

People have their labia trimmed? Shock

Ouch.

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MrsHelsBels74 · 06/07/2012 07:09

Wow wasn't expecting this so early in the morning.
I've never had a boob job, spray tan, Vajazzle, labia surgery, bikini wax or any of the other things mentioned (oh I do dye my hair though...I don't feel old enough for grey hairs!).
I work part time because I want to...to be honest I'd go crazy as a stay at home mum, I have nothing but respect for those that do but it just isn't for me.
I'm pretty sure my son recognises me despite my use of odour masking chemicals.

I don't understand why you are so ranty about other people's lifestyles. What does it really matter to you if people want to be a 'barbie doll'?

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EdithWeston · 06/07/2012 07:11

Is the underlying question here:

For what qualities do the mass media (and the porn industry) 'value' women, and does that have an effect on society?

Do we like those effects?

I'm not sure there has been a 'golden age of breastfeeding' in Europe, at least since the industrial revolution, so trying to draw a strong link is not a good argument in this. But of course a society saturated in airbrushed images which accentuate only certain sexual characteristics is less flexible in accepting the messier reality of a greater biological range.

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DronesClub · 06/07/2012 07:16

Is it only me that really hopes Xenia finds this thread Grin

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pigletmania · 06/07/2012 07:16

Blimy are you stupid, for assuming all women are the same Hmm . Part of feminism is that women are given the choices, if indon want a uni brow it's up to me to trim it. If you think that women who alter their bodies do it for men your thinking is extremely narrow

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Dprince · 06/07/2012 07:16

I wonder if the OP sees the irony in telling women that they can only be deemed intelligent if they look a certain way.

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DontmindifIdo · 06/07/2012 07:19

The thing is, surely you realise that the majority of woman don't have boob jobs, enhanced fanjos, bleached hair, tattooed eyeliner (really rare these days!) and regular spray tans. These aren't the choices of the majority of woman, so that's where your argument somewhat falls down.

I, however, wax my bits, dye my hair and haven't left the house completely bare faced since the 20th century, and yet I got fabulous breast feeding support (including from my MIL who dispite being Tonbridge's version of Margo Leadbetter had breast fed both her boys). I think the trick is not to give up on personal grooming in order to be taken seriously, but to make sure you're not talking a pile of shit when you do open your mouth.

Oh, and where does the OP stand on male bodily enhancement and male grooming? (both big growth areas right now)

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StealthPolarBear · 06/07/2012 07:20

You are a teacher with that judgemental and patronizing shit attitude? Fwiw I agree with some pf what you say nd to some extent but not to the point of slagging off a whole bunch of women

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VivaLeBeaver · 06/07/2012 07:22

Blimey.

Surely tattooing your lips is really painful?

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StaceymReadyForNumber3 · 06/07/2012 07:25

Hello have my first Biscuit

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pigletmania · 06/07/2012 07:27

God my fanjo is dreadful. When I go swimming I do not want pubic hair making an appearance left right and centre. I have or put make up for MYSELF!!!!!!!! Your telli g women what they can or can't do is no different to your rent op

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Chandon · 06/07/2012 07:27

The media is full of spray painted boobified women, but in the village where I live most women are working hard and look normal, and breast or bottle feed (whatever suits them), and are SAHM or WOHM or a hybrid version thereof.

I'd say most of my friends don't wear make up or dye their hair, those who do, do so freely.

My sons know how a 40 year old woman looks in her pants (no spray paint, no fake boobs), they think I am beautiful (bless them ! They are only little) and they like my squidgy bits (no hard toned body, just a normal average woman's body).

TBH, I do not recognise what you describe in your OP from my real life.

Maybe you have been watching Towie too much, reading Heat and Closer etc?

I find that English women on the whole seen very comfortable with their natural appearance, I am from South America and I can tell you, it is 100 times worse! Comparing tummy tucks at the school gates anyone Shock

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Megatron · 06/07/2012 07:31

look how stupid women are today. they have their bodies surgically adapted to men's fantasies - breasts enlarged, labia trimmed - they bleach their hair, tattoo their eyeliner and lipstick and have themselves spray-painted. they remove their pubic hair so they look like children for their (multiple) partners. if you read about it in a book on social anthropology you'd be horrified at the 'oppression' of women. but women think they are choosing this!

Speak for yourself. I don't know anyone like this, perhaps you need to broaden your circle of friends a little?

You don't sound like much of a feminist to me, nor like a particularly nice person.

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exoticfruits · 06/07/2012 07:33

I should speak for yourself OP. I don't do any of that - nor do the women I know. I guess that you watch too much TV and read celebrity magazines.

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urbanturban · 06/07/2012 07:33

WTAF?!!!

stacey let me join you in giving my first Biscuit

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exoticfruits · 06/07/2012 07:34

Cross posted with Megatron and said the same! Speak for yourself!

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