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AIBU to talk about gay people with year 3s?

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opalfruitblast · 29/06/2012 22:54

We were talking generally today, when I said that there are more males than females in the world. One child then asked who the extra boys would marry if there were not enough girls. Another child said that boys can marry boys, to which one child went 'urgh!', thus another child saying she didn't understand how people can be against men loving men or women loving women.

I said that, in my eyes, love is love, and it doesn't matter if you're a boy or a girl. Bear in mind I have a child in my class with two mums, and one with two dads...

Should I even be discussing homosexuality with 7 and 8 year olds? Personally, I think they should know about the different types of people in the world but I can see how some parents might object.

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ShadowsCollideWithPeople · 30/06/2012 00:24

But Nerd, there has been no mention of sex, just relationships. Which can mean relationships between men, women, either or both. You have brought sex ed into the conversation, and tbh, I'd prefer that kids are taught that they can have a healthy sexual relationship with anyone, as long as they take the correct precautions.

ComposHat · 30/06/2012 00:37

YANBU

It was a topic that came up organically in a class discussion and you answered honestly and appropriately.

The fact there are people are in relationships with people of the se gender is a fact, there's no need to ask anyone's permission to explain that. It is like saying trees have leaves, a simple fact.

Parents shouldn't have the right to dictate to schools what their children are taught.

47to31in7days · 30/06/2012 00:58

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Mrsjay · 30/06/2012 01:03

I told my dd at 7 that sometimes men love men like men love ladies and she said oh ok mum, she asked because i met a friend in town with his partner and she asked who is that mum, i said that i X and his boyfriend , it doesnt have to be an issue imo

HolyCameraConfusionBatman · 30/06/2012 01:09

47to31 your children will eventually find out that other people think differently to you. You're free to believe what you like and tell your DC's what you believe, but the OP should be free to say what she believes and what is fact. Some men love and have sex with other men, some women love and have sex with other women. That is FACT. Nothing wrong with a teacher telling children that. The OP believes 'love is love, and it doesn't matter if you're a boy or a girl' and she is entitled to express her beliefs, same as you are.

ComposHat · 30/06/2012 01:15

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MrsTerryPratchett · 30/06/2012 01:15

47to31in7days that is why you can decide that you don't want to have sex with someone of the same sex as you. Everyone else can decide for themselves.

Krumbum · 30/06/2012 01:29

And shes back! And she's spreading a bit more hatred.
It's ok 47 your kids will meet other people, gay people! And see how nasty and moronic your views really are.

47to31in7days · 30/06/2012 08:32

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Psammead · 30/06/2012 08:46

OP, I think that as children are 'exposed' to the idea of one man, one woman love and marriage from the very first stories they hear, that they cannot really be too young to hear about same sex love and marriage. I don't see a difference.

Psammead · 30/06/2012 08:52

47 I don't think it's particularly healthy to concern yourself so much over other people's sex lives.

ComposHat · 30/06/2012 09:00

I don't "hate" gays any more than I "hate" atheists, pagans, Muslims, those who misuse Jesus' name, liars, drunkards, over-eaters (gluttony), non-workers who could get a job but deliberately choose to be idle

Oh I'm sorry 47 there was me thinking you were a bigot, but now you've explained that you consider people in a loving and commited same sex relationship to be on a par with liars, drunkards, over eaters and the idle, that's cleared things up wonderfully.

Flobbadobs · 30/06/2012 10:08

I don't think it's inappropriate at all for young children to learn about same sex relationships, along with respect for people who are gay. I tore a strip off my DS the other day for using the word 'gay' as an insult (he's 12) and reminded him of a couple of good friends of ours who he adores who are in a same sex relationship and asked him how they would feel if they had heard him. He was mortified, hadn't thought about it in that way. We had a chat about it, as we have had in the past about various things. He's promised to think before opening his mouth in future.
I've put it down to thoughtlessness on his part, he's a good kid in general, easily led in soe ways though.

Mishy1234 · 30/06/2012 10:20

I don't think discussing same sex relationships should be treated any differently to discussing heterosexual ones. DH's uncle is gay and got married a year or so ago. I explained to DS1 (4) that they love each other and decided they wanted to spend the rest of their lives together and he accepted that. I've had a few questions since and have answered them honestly.

Obviously, all our conversations have been at the level of his age, so nothing about sex yet as he's far too young to understand.

I don't see why parents would have a problem tbh, unless they are homophobic.

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans · 30/06/2012 10:41

So 47, if your DC wanted to know why Jack in their class had two mums or Maisie had two dads, you'd be telling them it was because their parents were sinners?

Thank you so much for hating us less than cheating men. My partner and I have been together in a committed relationship (now civil partnership) raising DD(11) for 10 years. She's Head of School Council and has just achieved Levels 5 and 6 in her SATS. I'm class rep for the PTA. We both have responsible jobs (DW is a teacher) and have never had any trouble with the police. DD's friends enjoy coming to our house. But you put us on a par with liars, adulterers, dole cheats and drunkards.
You sound lovely.

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans · 30/06/2012 10:43

Are you sure you're not Daftpunk?

47to31in7days · 30/06/2012 10:46

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PenisVanLesbian · 30/06/2012 10:55

Who gives a fuck what your "god" says? I don't believe your god exists, and even if they did, if they designed people, they designed gay people too.
So either your're wrong on your god existing at all, or you think he fucked up majorly by creating all these people who he doesn't approve of.

Lilithmoon · 30/06/2012 10:58

Well said PVL.

Psammead · 30/06/2012 11:00

Does your god hate those kids whose parents are taken from them via death?

IMO, you give Christians a bad name. I like Christians, generally, although I do not believe in god. They tend to be friendly and accepting. You are the opposite. Do you think you hide behind your religion as a front for your own bigotry? Or do you genuinely believe that god wants you to feel so much hatred towards your fellow human beings?

trixymalixy · 30/06/2012 11:03

Wow, what an extraordinary outpouring of bile, how very un Christian of you. I thought Jesus preached love and tolerance, not hatred Hmm.

47to31in7days · 30/06/2012 11:06

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blueglue · 30/06/2012 11:07

I would ask your boss for clarification but I am astonished that y3 children do not know this sort of stuff.

My dc are y1 and preschool and both know that you marry someone you love, male or female and also that the only people you can't marry are members of your family!

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