To think these teachers should be sacked?

[JosephineCD]

www.telegraph.co.uk/education/primaryeducation/9359632/Teachers-tell-pupils-not-to-offer-seats-to-disabled-passengers-for-safety-reasons.html

Teachers ordered children not to stand up on a train in order to give their seats to a disabled lady and an elderly war veteran. Is it any wonder that kids are leaving school completely fucked up when they have teachers like this? They need to be sacked. There's no excuse for this.

She apparently said, 'About five minutes into the meeting I watched in horror as he peeled a banana and was breaking off small pieces and then bending his head down from time-to-time to pop pieces in his mouth. '

I expect he was sitting down, too.

I agree with Hexenbiest, on page 7.

Some people are pains in the derrière, and they continue to be pains as they age!

I assumed he was eating the banana in a filthy manner. Thay lady is obviously easily horrified. Thank goodness they didn't have biscuits, the crumbs!

No, no, no. By breaking off pieces the councillor was clearly taking pains to eat it in a non-suggestive manner.

Although according to the Queen's butler and Princess Diana's Rock, Paul Burrell, the correct way to eat a banana is with a knife and fork. All the Royals do it that way. Except for Fergie, which is one of the reasons they ditched her.

Maybe councils don't provide cutlery for mid-meeting snacks any more as a direct result of swingeing cuts in local authority budgets

OP what's your opinion on this?

Hee hee. Can you imagine the nice ladies reaction if he peeled the banana, placed it on a plate (with a sprig of parsley), tied a napkin around his neck then proceeded to eat the banana by slicing it into dainty sliced and scoffing it on a fork?

I heard Princess Margaret was another one for cramming the whole banana in lengthways.

Where?

Usually at her villa in Mustique with one of the pool boys.

Did she take it up the bahamas?

There is a Jamaica joke there but I'm buggered if I can think of it.

I have done school trips with my dcs. They were younger than the children involved and I would never presumed that there would enough seats for all of them in the same carriage.

If the children had been 6yo and under then, I can see the dilemma for the teacher. I would have expected any child over 7yo to stand up in this case. And it would not have cross my mind to sue a teacher for that.
1- because a train breaking down to strongly that the child falls and hurt themselves is unlikely (or rather it is likely to be a serious thing)
2- because they might be moving around anyway (going to the loo anyone?)

I think that sort of attitude is H&S gone crazy. I can see the teacher would be anxious and have that sort of reaction but perhaps it is also to all of us (I mean all the one on here who say they would shocked to hear their precious dc had to stand up during a train trip of what one hour max and would be suing school if they hd got injured!!) to change pour attitude.

What we are talking about here isn't any more risky than what we do as parents and we wouldn't have an issue with it (I assume all of us would ask their dc to stand up for an elderly person here?). None of us is expecting to be getting sacked/going to a tribunal because we asked our dc to leave their seat for a disabled person.

It is actually scary because it means that, as a society, we think it's OK not to show any respect towards elderly people/'weaker' members of our society, all because of some sort of H&S gone over the top.

Didn't read the whole thread, but IMO the fault here really lies with the law - train and bus companies being allowed to sell tickets for which there are no seats.

I have posted about this before, I suffered a nasty hip injury on the tube (and again on a bus, in very similar circs), when I was standing and all my weight was thrown onto one leg, jarring my hip joint and causing ligament/muscle damage. A small child was thrown forward like a bowling ball....... and both these incidents were sharp breaking, no crash involved.

One ticket per seat, seatbelts on every seat, should just be the law, common sense.

ha ha ha that is my local paper, well portchester is over run by older people the easily ofended.

Agree it's bonkers, BUT imagine - 30 kids stand, train brakes, children get hurt. Teacher gets sacked/disciplined for ignoring the original risk assessment.Teacher probably felt awful, but I would have chosen to do the same (wouldn't have felt happy about it, but still, the safety of the 30 children in my care HAVE to come first)

OP - you obviously have zero idea about the red tape which surrounds the teaching profession.

you obviously have zero idea about the red tape which surrounds the teaching profession
The issue for me isn't whether there is some red tape now (it is clear there is) but why it's there and whether it should be there.
That sorts of incident should make us stop and think. With these rules, are actually being fair to all people in the society? Is it necessary or over the top safety wise? What do we teach these dcs?

I now longer take school trips

1/ because of stuff like this
2/ because JosephineCD et al would be the first in line with complaints if their PFB was hurt.

NB. I wonder what that nasty teacher did to JosephineCD to make her/him so biased against all teachers.

Making a child stand up on a train is not an unreasonable risk to safety IMO.

It misses the entire point of risk assessment! JosephineCD is obviously not a teacher if she thinks it is up to her opinion.